31 languages spoken in a British primary school
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31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolSee article here
Is this what we want for Britain?
In a time where increasingly the English language is becoming devalued and children are being brought up not being able to speak correct English with correct grammar - is this something we want for British primary schools?
The school uses translators and all teachers are trained in EAL. This is ridiculous. In England as well. Either most of these children are immigrants themselves and cannot speak English, or they were born in Britain and still can't speak English. If they could speak English - there would be no need for translators/EAL teaching.
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolThey don't seem to be doing that badly............But, despite the challenges, the school was ranked one of the best performing in Birmingham in last year’s SATs exams, with 91 per cent of students getting the benchmark level four or above in English, and 89 per cent in maths
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolSo why does that school hire translators then if they're doing so well in SATs?(Original post by rawkus)
They don't seem to be doing that badly............
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolShould we not really be celebrating the fact that these young children are learning to speak multiple languages at such a young age rather than condemning them for not being fluent in english already (even thought the SATs seem to show they are)?
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolThey're in Britain. They should be able to speak fluent English without using translators.(Original post by laurenbowes)
Should we not really be celebrating the fact that these young children are learning to speak multiple languages at such a young age rather than condemning them for not being fluent in english already (even thought the SATs seem to show they are)?Last edited by im so academic; 07-06-2012 at 21:11. Reason: Typo -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolDamn foreigners being unable to speak english correctly.(Original post by im so academic)
They're in British.
P.S. The majority of people have understood that this is a joke mocking the OP but one member thought I was genuinely being xenophobic, just clarifying...Last edited by laurenbowes; 08-06-2012 at 10:11. -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolOrrrrrrrrr it shows that the translators they hire are very good and their pairing policy that helps them learn English are very effective. Granted more effort and expense is being directed to them but the fact remains that result is a class of people that can all speak English and end up achieving good results.(Original post by im so academic)
So why does that school hire translators then if they're doing so well in SATs?
That only just shows that SATs are bull**** tests.
If you were right and SATS were bull**** tests then you are effectively saying that the rest of Birmingham's children are dumbasses since a group of kids who have only just learnt English are doing better then the rest of them. If thats the case, I hope that you arent from Birmingham........... -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolI find it quite weird as to how you've gone from being obsessed with academics & Oxbridge, to hating yourself, and now hating immigrants(Original post by im so academic)
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolOnly people from Commonwealth countries should have a right to Education over here. The rest should be sent back regardless of British citizenship - they should at least speak our language to the same degree another kid of their age does...
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolWell yes, that's the whole point of EAL teaching isn't it?(Original post by im so academic)
They're in British. They should be able to speak fluent English without using translators. -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolIts not until you reach a point where the teacher is overwhelmed by the numerous languages that are spoken in one class and they have to hire translators so possibly 1/2 translators per class plus the teachers that still a 3:30 ratio. its not only the British born and English speaking pupils who suffer its everyone in the class. and all the taxpayers money that goes towards these translators means that there is less in the education pot for uni students, students with disabilities etc. its a crucially a cycle of decline. -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary school(Original post by im so academic)
They're in British. They should be able to speak fluent English without using translators. -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolWhilst it's great that these kids are fluent in two languages at such a young age, I can't help but feel they would probably progress quicker without translators. I'm only saying this because I moved into a foreign school at a young age, and NONE of the teachers or students spoke English or offered any help. Within 3-4 months I was completely fluent, aged 8.
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolYou just won the spat out my drink award.(Original post by laurenbowes)
Damn foreigners being unable to speak english correctly.
On topic; who cares? We have a great mix of languages here, these people will only serve the economy when they are older being able to speak such a range of languages meaning we can reach out all over the globe in an increasingly competitive world.
>Living in 2012
>caring about something like this when it's bound to happen somewhere.
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolGiven that you as a British person seem unable to talk in English properly, it is perhaps unreasonable of you to expect them to(Original post by im so academic)
They're in British. They should be able to speak fluent English without using translators.
