31 languages spoken in a British primary school
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolThat comment you quoted flew right over your pretty little head.(Original post by im so academic)
I doubt all of them were immigrants, many of them would be British-born. So why can't they speak properly without the aid of translators and EAL? -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolI understand your point - these children should be taught english as early as possible so less translators, etc are needed later on.
But hey, if you were offered a job in Spain and then moved to live there, would you instantly know how to speak amazing spanish? No. And if you had kids you'd be talking to them in english, not spanish - so they would also learn english first, just like these kids first learn how to speak their mother tongues.
A lot of people from other countries speak english outside and speak their own languages at home because it just feels more natural, so kids learn that language first.
My parents speak perfect english but at home mostly spoke Hindi, so I learnt hindi first. Kids learn fast and so I learnt english soon after, and I like to think my english is rather fabulous
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolNot every native British person speaks English you ignorant toff(Original post by im so academic)
I doubt all of them were immigrants, many of them would be British-born. So why can't they speak properly without the aid of translators and EAL? -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolYou are a hero. I love you.(Original post by hiyamynameissoph)
your view is disgusting. have you ever imagined how terrifying it must be for these children have to grow up and judged by idiots like you, made even worse by the fact that english isn't their native language. so people who are at a slight disadvantage to the other children don't deserve the chance at an education? grow up.
I'm sorry, but I was reading this thread thinking to myself "just read the posts- don't bother posting anything, because its probably one of those threads that go nowhere". But I must say you are the most indignant, pseudo-intellectual person who's posts I've read in several weeks, and I've read several of those "does god exist LulZ!?" threads.(Original post by im so academic)
Wait a second, if you're British-born (not all of them are immigrants), surely you must be able to speak English?
So what? Your melodramatic rhetoric of "OOH, are you sure we want this for Britain?" is stupid because this isn't proliferating. It's not like these multilingual schools are opening left right and centre in the UK, and just as an FYI; not only are these schools low in number but most have been established for many years. The fact that one made it onto a news website is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for their existence to be deemed new phenomena.(Original post by im so academic)
The school uses translators and all teachers are trained in EAL. This is ridiculous. In England as well. Either most of these children are immigrants themselves and cannot speak English, or they were born in Britain and still can't speak English. If they could speak English - there would be no need for translators/EAL teaching.
You're quite literally on TSR having a go at 5-10 year olds for not being fluent in English, a language I can imagine many of them will go on to speak well since they are bright kids given their SAT performance, which you then undermine by calling these standardised national exams "bull****". It's beyond pathetic.
Let these kids learn. They have a right to be educated if they came into this country legally, and their parents work, and pay taxes. And let these kids who seem adept in terms of academia learn, and grow up to work here, and pay taxes here too. These kids aren't the problem- it's all the other low achievers, too lazy to even try to speak ANY language, which everyone else should worry about first.Last edited by All Taken; 07-06-2012 at 22:37. -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolHow dumb are you?? Maybe you should read the article again. The school is one of the best performing schools in the area, so evidently learning is not being hindered in any way at all.(Original post by im so academic)
Calling me a racist now? Because I'm concerned that other people's education will be held back?
How can you learn if there are many people in your class who can't understand English? How is it fair on those individuals? -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolIf the Birmingham Mail is anything like the Daily Mail then it's more like 3 languages are spoken, with one of them being English, another being French, during lessons, and the third being spoken by a linguistic genius of a 9 year old.
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolDitto(Original post by Mendeleev's Table)
ISA you've lost your touch. You went from the best troll on TSR, slating anybody that dared to disrespect Oxbridge, then to an desperately insecure little girl and now this.
Try harder.
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolI don't agree with that. If you're living in the host country, you should be speaking the host language (at least most of the time).(Original post by Bright.Inspiration.)
I understand your point - these children should be taught english as early as possible so less translators, etc are needed later on.
But hey, if you were offered a job in Spain and then moved to live there, would you instantly know how to speak amazing spanish? No. And if you had kids you'd be talking to them in english, not spanish - so they would also learn english first, just like these kids first learn how to speak their mother tongues.
A lot of people from other countries speak english outside and speak their own languages at home because it just feels more natural, so kids learn that language first.
My parents speak perfect english but at home mostly spoke Hindi, so I learnt hindi first. Kids learn fast and so I learnt english soon after, and I like to think my english is rather fabulous
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolAgreed. I like to think I'm one of those(Original post by Stray_talk)
Speaking as a teacher, I'd like to add that I've had a few EAL children over the years and they've worked a damn sight harder than a lot of the "British born and bred" children.
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolErm...no offence but NO. I was born in India, my mother tongue isn't English. I speak very good English so you're not going to tell me what to do in my own house. Thank you.(Original post by im so academic)
I don't agree with that. If you're living in the host country, you should be speaking the host language (at least most of the time). -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolRight, so first people want non-English speakers to learn English. Then when there's a report showing that children are getting help with their English, it's bad because they didn't all ready know it.
It's not that easy to learn a language, I'd like to see you move to another country and instantly know the language.
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolCompletely agree. I sit next to a polish girl in chemistry. Her work ethic is insane, she's sitting two lots of school leaving exams A levels and the polish Matura.(Original post by Stray_talk)
Speaking as a teacher, I'd like to add that I've had a few EAL children over the years and they've worked a damn sight harder than a lot of the "British born and bred" children. -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolBlaaady immigrants. Doing well at school and being able to speak more than 1 language. Disgraceful, utterly disgraceful.
What we need is more youngsters in inner city schools who can only speak 1 language, English and not just any form of English, but that street slang type of English. Ya get me blud? -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolThe first language you pick up as a child is the one spoken at home, which is often the mother tongue of your parents.(Original post by im so academic)
I don't agree with that. If you're living in the host country, you should be speaking the host language (at least most of the time). -
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolWhat about speakers of Welsh, Irish and Scottish Gaelic who learn English at school, exactly like those children in the article?(Original post by im so academic)
I don't agree with that. If you're living in the host country, you should be speaking the host language (at least most of the time). -
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Woohoo! :Welsh:(Original post by Gales)
What about speakers of Welsh, Irish and Scottish Gaelic who learn English at school, exactly like those children in the article?
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Re: 31 languages spoken in a British primary schoolWho are you to decide what language people should speak or should not speak?(Original post by im so academic)
I don't agree with that. If you're living in the host country, you should be speaking the host language (at least most of the time).
Many people can speak multiple languages, it's a part of their cultural heritage and something to be proud of. I'm older now and can speak 3/4 languages - being able to speak in many languages is a good thing. Grow up and stop being so ignorant and narrow minded.Last edited by Bright.Inspiration.; 07-06-2012 at 22:03.
