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  1. Metrobeans's Avatar
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    V447 - Immigration Bill 2012
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    Immigration Act 2012

    An Act to reform our immigration system in order to make it fairer and more organised.

    BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:-

    1. Asylum Seekers

    a) Citizens from other countries who claim asylum, are only successful with their claim, provided that the United Kingdom is their nearest safe country and/or that the United Kingdom is actively involved in a military conflict in their country of origin.

    2. Points-Based Immigration

    Tier 3 - Low skilled migrants

    a) Applications for Tier 3 visas are only accepted when unemployment in the United Kingdom is less than two million.

    b) Immigrants are only successful in their application for a Tier 3 visa, provided that they can prove their competence in the English language.

    Tier 2 - Skilled workers with an offer of employment

    a) Applications for Tier 2 visas are successful provided that the offer of employment is greater than £21,000 p.a

    b) Applications for Tier 2 visas are rejected if the applicant cannot prove their competence in the English language.

    c) Candidates for Tier 2 visas are eligible to apply for Indefinite Leave to Remain or permanent residence after eight years in the United Kingdom

    d) Residents with Tier 2 visas are required to obtain employment paying greater than £20,000 p.a within twelve months, in the event of being made redundant, dismissed or voluntarily resigned. After twelve months, a Tier 2 visa will expire and the candidate will be deported, if should they fail to obtain alternative employment.

    3. Other Restrictions

    a) Immigrants who commit a serious criminal offence are deported to their country of origin, irrespective of their immigration status.

    b) Immigrants are eligible to receive state benefits (excluding access to the National Health Service and State Education) after working in the United Kingdom for ten non-consecutive years and have been granted Indefinite Leave to Remain or permanent residence.

    c) Immigrants are expected to obtain employment within twelve months of entering a state of unemployment; failure to comply with this regulation results in deportation. This restriction is lifted after working in the United Kingdom for ten non-consecutive years and has been granted Indefinite Leave to Remain or permanent residence.

    4. Other Information

    a) This act shall come into force after Royal Assent

    b) This act may be cited as the Immigration Act 2012

    c) This act extends to the whole of the United Kingdom


    The Government is aware that immigration can benefit a country when controlled in a proportionate manner.

    This bill will continue to accept immigrants into the United Kingdom who are highly skilled and have an offer of employment; we recognise that these immigrants help our economy grow. The Government recognises that during these tough economic times, it can be very easy for people to reach a state of unemployment due to a variety of factors; this bill gives 12 months for immigrants who have reached this state of unemployment to find alternative work.

    A report published earlier this year, proves that non-EU immigration is linked to the employment levels of 'native workers'. In light of this report, the Government will not accept applications for Tier 3 visas when UK unemployment levels reach 2 million. Tier 3 visas are for those who wish to come to the UK and undertake temporary unskilled labour work; the Government recognises the absurdity in accepting Tier 3 visas when unemployment is high.

    The Government believes, that through the implementation of this bill, we can reward hard-working skilled immigrants who are contributing to the economy, whilst ensuring that the flow of immigration does not become uncontrollable.
  2. internetguru's Avatar
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    How can non-EU immigrants affect employment for natives yet EU ones do not? Logically both affect it. Nevertheless it is definitely an
    aye from me.
  3. Mechie's Avatar
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    Not this again... still no, for the reasons I've already said.
  4. RoryS's Avatar
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    No, for the reasons that I've already stated.
  5. Moleman1996's Avatar
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    Aye from me
  6. Maddog Jones's Avatar
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    More Nay's on this bill than in David Cameron's stable
  7. JPKC's Avatar
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    Nope!

    Why is the government so determined to make practically every bill so allergic to getting passed?
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    (Original post by JPKC)
    Nope!

    Why is the government so determined to make practically every bill so allergic to getting passed?
    That's the Tory way I'm afraid...
  9. internetguru's Avatar
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    (Original post by JPKC)
    Nope!

    Why is the government so determined to make practically every bill so allergic to getting passed?
    What exactly is your problem with it?
  10. RoryS's Avatar
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    What exactly is your problem with it?
    I don't think Socialists/Labour need to answer that question. This bill is truly outrageous.

    I hope it doesn't pass.
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    I don't think Socialists/Labour need to answer that question. This bill is truly outrageous.

    I hope it doesn't pass.
    It reduces population growth and keeps more people out for jobs we simply don't have. What is the problem? This solves problems like any bill should.
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    It reduces population growth and keeps more people out for jobs we simply don't have. What is the problem? This solves problems like any bill should.
    The problem of unemployment isn't that there's too many people - it's that there isn't enough jobs being created. Why don't we also have a child restriction policy, like China? If there's less people it must mean less unemployment, surely, going by the logic of this bill.
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    (Original post by davidmarsh01)
    The problem of unemployment isn't that there's too many people - it's that there isn't enough jobs being created. Why don't we also have a child restriction policy, like China? If there's less people it must mean less unemployment, surely, going by the logic of this bill.
    Unfortunately the economy isn't going to get any better so increasing the population will only make it worst. Good idea I will work on a bill.
  14. RoryS's Avatar
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    It reduces population growth and keeps more people out for jobs we simply don't have. What is the problem? This solves problems like any bill should.
    Population growth is fine at the moment, what we need is more and better jobs to make sure that everyone has work. We also need to encourage small businesses to take on younger staff as the figures around youth unemployment are currently massive.

    Your priorities should be the young, not the people coming through the borders who are actually hard-workers and bring culture into our country and local communities.
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    Population growth is fine at the moment, what we need is more and better jobs to make sure that everyone has work. We also need to encourage small businesses to take on younger staff as the figures around youth unemployment are currently massive.

    Your priorities should be the young, not the people coming through the borders who are actually hard-workers and bring culture into our country and local communities.
    You realise employers will choose to employ immigrants with any experience before the young right?
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    (Original post by internetguru)
    You realise employers will choose to employ immigrants with any experience before the young right?
    Do you have any evidence to support this claim?
  17. internetguru's Avatar
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    Do you have any evidence to support this claim?
    Common sense why would some random youngster without any experience or relevant training get the job?
  18. Metrobeans's Avatar
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    The noes have it! The noes have it!
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