[SnoochToTheBooch]

this isn't even a debate anymore, the answer is a resounding yes but I'm not expecting it to happen any time soon.

[Elipsis]

(Original post by Yung Mon£y)
Really? Including all the fights and ****? Lets see the proof bro

Tax intake 14.6bn per year:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11170814

Cost to NHS 2.7 bn per year (For both direct and indirect costs):
http://www.ic.nhs.uk/webfiles/public...gland_2011.pdf

That's quite a nice little £11.9bn profit per year br0.

[Pitt1988]

Haha! What stoned person goes out to start fights anyway lol. If anything there will be less aggression, more empathy and compassion.

[consumed]

Pros I can think of:

Revenue won't fund criminals
Police will have more time to tackle other problems
Tax (Legalised weed would probably be cheaper due to it being grown here rather than smuggled in someone's anus/stomach)
Jobs
Less people may smoke it as it's no longer forbidden
Less criminal records for people caught with weed (Personal use)

Cons:

More people may smoke it (More tax though)
Tax income from alcohol/tobacco may not be as much as before

Can't think of much else..

These are just thoughts of mine with no backing from tests and all of the studies done..

[Chulabomb]

(Original post by Yung Mon£y)
Are you on another planet love? You do know people have probably died in Morocco to get that weed you love so much? And what about the increased cancer chance? ****ing kids living in their bubble world away from reality is what is driving this country into the ****ing ground

If the government legalised it they could grow it themselves, you idiot. I personally couldn't give a damn about increased cancer chances, it's my body and I'll do what I want with it.
I'd be interested to know where you get your clothes from. I expect they're from a high street chain that uses child labour. Or that fruit you eat? Picked and harvested by immigrants that are paid about £1 an hour. Get off your high horse you fool.

[lightburns]

(Original post by Yung Mon£y)
Try again bro
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/901160-o...-20-cigarettes
Weed is way worse then smoking

Sorry bro. The British Lung Foundation is wrong.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...46083577_n.jpg, or typed out in quote below:

(Original post by Metro letters)
The British Lung foundation finds it alarming that almost 90 per cent of the British public think the cancer risk from a tobacco cigarrette exceeds that from a cannabis one (Metro, Wed). The BLF can relax - the public may be right.
Scientific evidence should be used to discover the truth about drugs and some prefer to cherry-pick evidence to support their prejudices.
The BLF's claim that the cancer risk from one joint equates to 20 cigarettes is not the result of its rigorously assessing evidence. It is an unfounded inference from a 2008 study headed by S Aldington, a study that never made that particular claim and was criticised for incorrect methodology and false reasoning.
Whilst the evidence is not fully conclusive, other studies have found no link between no link between cannabis and lung cancer or moderate cannabis use and lung function.
Scaremongering over cannabis does not equip the public to make wiser choices. Neither does making tobacco look safer with this false comparison.
The best evidence-based advice to help cannabis smokers look after their lungs would be to abandon the peculiar British habit of mixing cannabis with tobacco.
David Nutt, chair, Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs

Want to know about the studies he's talking about? Sure! Here's an example!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0526083353.htm
Want another? Sure!
http://www.ukcia.org/research/MjUseAndLungCancer.php
I can go at this all day!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?t...eet%20A%202007

[Scumbaggio]

(Original post by Yung Mon£y)
Son, Portugal is still in the top 3 highest drug consumping EU countries so until its in the bottom three its still a junkies paradise
And no weed is way worse then smoking for cancer
This thread is filled with hippies whove no idea on reality



Cant you see with all the restrictions on smoking they are phasing it out not promoting it? ****ing obvious stuff bro
Theres less teenagers in Amsterdam! LOL



Lad you dont have a ****ing clue do you as to where UK weed comes from

"Lad" LOLZ

You haven't got a clue, of course most of the weed here is homegrown the only way you would think otherwise was if you had no knowledge of the subject you're talking about.

Stop coming on here calling people lad and son when you're a daft ****.

[The Socktor]

(Original post by Yung Mon£y)
Try again bro
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/901160-o...-20-cigarettes
Weed is way worse then smoking

Ah, but sucking in the fumes released by a burning plant naturally will have bad effects on the human body. There are other ways of taking it though, such as eating it.

[rainbow.panda]

I don't see why not. I don't condone drug use but it's actually less harmful and addictive than tobacco or alcohol and those things are available to buy in shops. Why not weed?

If it can't be legalised for recreational use then at least make it legal for medical use.

[Pitt1988]

(Original post by lightburns)
Sorry bro. The British Lung Foundation is wrong.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...46083577_n.jpg, or typed out in quote below:


Want to know about the studies he's talking about? Sure! Here's an example!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0526083353.htm
Want another? Sure!
http://www.ukcia.org/research/MjUseAndLungCancer.php
I can go at this all day!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?t...eet%20A%202007

Thanks for them! Been looking for some evidence to throw at my mother for ages haha. Always get in to heated debates with the old bag, she seems to think it's as bad as heroin

[The Doggfather]

There's no link between smoking weed and lung cancer, unlike cigarettes

[isaacworthington]

Here come all the 4/20ers saying: "Weed is safer than alcohol." STFU

[lightburns]

(Original post by Pitt1988)
Thanks for them! Been looking for some evidence to throw at my mother for ages haha. Always get in to heated debates with the old bag, she seems to think it's as bad as heroin

Whereas I'm going to ask my Dad for this for my birthday http://www.amazon.co.uk/Drugs-Withou...9184873&sr=8-1


Nutt is great. You need to introduce him to your mother.

[lightburns]

(Original post by isaacworthington)
Here come all the 4/20ers saying: "Weed is safer than alcohol." STFU

Well... it is

If you want people to stfu about cannabis, don't come onto a cannabis thread.

[isaacworthington]

(Original post by lightburns)
Well... it is

If you want people to stfu about cannabis, don't come onto a cannabis thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-te...ts_of_cannabis.

[DanLorenzo]

toke, toke, toke, toke, take it to the head, take it to the head.

[Veni Vidi Fugi]

Personally I don't think it's the state's role to tell people how to live their lives. So long as it doesn't harm anyone else, adults should be allowed to make their own decisions. Thus, I say legalise all drugs, then tax them an enormous amount, and enforce an incredibly strict licensing policy.

[isaacworthington]

(Original post by lightburns)
Well... it is

If you want people to stfu about cannabis, don't come onto a cannabis thread.

Owned.

[lightburns]

(Original post by isaacworthington)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-te...ts_of_cannabis.

Okay. Lets tally this up.
I hope you've read your link, because a lot of it is saying things like '2002 longitudinal study published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal concluded that "marijuana does not have a long-term negative impact on global intelligence," and that "current marijuana use had a negative effect on global IQ score only in subjects who smoked 5 or more joints per week"', which hardly supports your claims.
I also hope that you have read the corresponding wikipedia page for alcohol.

Dangers of cannabis
Culture of using tobacco (and tobacco is dangerous).
Coughing when smoked.
Inability to know quality or strength due to unregulated illegal status.
Monetary policing and legal costs due to illegal status.
May exacerbate psychosis disorders that are already present.

Deaths: 0

Dangers of alcohol
Impaired brain development
Wenicke-Korsakoff syndrome (vision changes, ataxia, impaired memory)
Depression and anxiety
Mouth, trachea and esophagus cancer
Anaemia
Alcoholic cardiomyopathy
Cirrhosis
Hepatitis
Chronic gastritis
Pancreatitis
Increased risk of diabetes type 2
Affects other people (aggressiveness, contributes to the likelihood of domestic abuse and sexual assault due to behavioural changes)

Deaths: 35,000+ in USA per year, 75,000+ per year if you include the ones who died from accidents due to behavioural changes of alcohol e.g. reckless driving (link)

....

(Original post by isaacworthington)
Owned.

I'm glad that you are acknowledging that you have been.

[isaacworthington]

(Original post by lightburns)
Okay. Lets tally this up.
I hope you've read your link, because a lot of it is saying things like '2002 longitudinal study published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal concluded that "marijuana does not have a long-term negative impact on global intelligence," and that "current marijuana use had a negative effect on global IQ score only in subjects who smoked 5 or more joints per week"', which hardly supports your claims.
I also hope that you have read the corresponding wikipedia page for alcohol.

Dangers of cannabis
Culture of using tobacco (and tobacco is dangerous).
Coughing when smoked.
Inability to know quality or strength due to unregulated illegal status.
Monetary policing and legal costs due to illegal status.
May exacerbate psychosis disorders that are already present, but this is a complex interaction and still not understood.

Direct deaths: 0

Dangers of alcohol
Impaired brain development
Wenicke-Korsakoff syndrome (vision changes, ataxia, impaired memory)
Depression and anxiety
Mouth, trachea and esophagus cancer
Anaemia
Alcoholic cardiomyopathy
Cirrhosis
Hepatitis
Chronic gastritis
Pancreatitis
Increased risk of diabetes type 2
Affects other people (aggressiveness, contributes to the likelihood of domestic abuse and sexual assault due to behavioural changes)

Direct deaths: 37,000 in USA per year

....

Big country, compare it with a smaller country.