[lightburns]

(Original post by M4LLY)
I don't do the stuff so i'm not too fussed either way

Not a good enough reason to not be fussed.

I am fussed because I think that politics should keep its nose out of science, and not try to cripple it or control the results. Science should be objective fact and nothing else. The fact that Nutt lost his job is a travesty.

I am fussed because I think that things that harm one's own body should be the choice of the individual, otherwise one would be advocating that the state own's that body. The state owns you. Tell me that it doesn't when you realise that the state controls the conditions under which you may have consensual intercourse and when a person may choose to switch off their body.

I am fussed because it is hypocritical and unequal that one drug user, who takes a deadly drug which causes harm, injury and possibly death to nearby non-users, is allowed to take this. However, a drug user who takes a drug of little harm to themselves and virtually none to others is not allowed.

You can see how active I have been in this thread. However, I am not a drug user. I won't touch anything addictive, including caffeine. I'm not averse to illegal drugs, so I might try them in the future (including cannabis, as it is not addictive), but this is not an issue that affects me. However, it's something that I'm very fussed about...

[M4LLY]

(Original post by lightburns)
Not a good enough reason to not be fussed.

I am fussed because I think that politics should keep its nose out of science, and not try to cripple it or control the results. Science should be objective fact and nothing else.

I am fussed because I think that things that harm one's own body should be the choice of the individual, otherwise one would be advocating that the state own's that body. The state owns you. Tell me that it doesn't when you realise that the state controls the conditions under which you may have consensual intercourse and when a person may choose to switch off their body..

Ah, now i see why it is such a hot topic. Well, legalise it if it'll tech those politicians a thing or two

[lightburns]

(Original post by M4LLY)
Ah, now i see why it is such a hot topic. Well, legalise it if it'll tech those politicians a thing or two

Yay I just dislike quite how much power politicians wield sometimes, as they can refuse to follow expert opinion, or ask expert opinion to change for political reasons, or just sack the expert. It's not right.

[M4LLY]

(Original post by lightburns)
Yay I just dislike quite how much power politicians wield sometimes, as they can refuse to follow expert opinion, or ask expert opinion to change for political reasons, or just sack the expert. It's not right.

I see what you mean, i've seen plenty of scientific evidence to suggest weed is nowhere near as harmful as originally thought. I've done it a handful of times at college parties and i'd do it again if someone offered me some. I fail.to see why the politicians are so niave about it.

[Suetonius]

It's not a "Great Debate". It's not even debatable.

(Original post by Yung Mon£y)
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Do you drink?

[robin22391]

(Original post by Pitt1988)
Haha! What stoned person goes out to start fights anyway lol. If anything there will be less aggression, more empathy and compassion.

[moh.alt]

YES

[Spaz Man]

No. Productivity levels in the economy are too low as it is. This will keep us in recession for at least another year.

[Yung Mon£y]

(Original post by Scumbaggio)
"Lad" LOLZ

You haven't got a clue, of course most of the weed here is homegrown the only way you would think otherwise was if you had no knowledge of the subject you're talking about.

Stop coming on here calling people lad and son when you're a daft ****.

Son youve no idea about where weed comes from and your probably oblivious as to the measures Spains had to introduce to combat weed from morroco so keep living your teeny bubble life and thinking you know what your on about when you dont

[Etreble]

(Original post by Beneb)
Oh dear. Sarcasm, meet Etreble; Etreble, Sarcasm.

I wasn't aware you two had met!

[Yung Mon£y]

(Original post by Chulabomb)
If the government legalised it they could grow it themselves, you idiot. I personally couldn't give a damn about increased cancer chances, it's my body and I'll do what I want with it.
I'd be interested to know where you get your clothes from. I expect they're from a high street chain that uses child labour. Or that fruit you eat? Picked and harvested by immigrants that are paid about £1 an hour. Get off your high horse you fool.

Nice to know your life is so worthless youll throw it away in a puff of smoke
Mature attitude love real mature and anyway I dont want to be paying for your self harming emo attitude when you go nuts or get cancer

Getting shot and stabbed to death in Morroco isnt the same as working on a farm or in a factory dear plus £1 an hour is enough for a 3 meals a day and rent for some of these people so go learn about economics inbetween being emo

[Yung Mon£y]

(Original post by Elipsis)
Tax intake 14.6bn per year:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11170814

Cost to NHS 2.7 bn per year (For both direct and indirect costs):
http://www.ic.nhs.uk/webfiles/public...gland_2011.pdf

That's quite a nice little £11.9bn profit per year br0.

Fair point but two things
One is how can you say thatll be the same for weed
The other is just because it makes money is it therefore morally acceptable
Dont be shallow bro

[Yung Mon£y]

(Original post by Pitt1988)
LOL. Do you know how easy it is for someone who wants to go buy weed to go and get it from someone? As easy as going to a shop I'll tell you that. Legalising it wont encourage people to smoke weed man, you've got it wrong. There wouldn't be a spike in users. People are informed enough themselves to make a decision of what they would and would not choose to do to their bodies.

Take the money away from the REAL criminals and gangs that physical assault people, or perhaps the murders that go with it. It's win win I'm afraid.

Perhaps a little informed education from an earlier age, rather than the old 'don't do drugs, drugs are bad' routine. People will always take drugs, irrespective of its legislation within a given country. The point is there is some callous ****er reaping the benefits of selling it.

LOL what **** hole do you live in son? I aint got corner boys around here
If you remove the illegal stigma why wouldnt there be an increase in users?
How is giving more people cancer and making them go nuts a good idea? Weed is a gateway drug
What the **** is wrong with you lot that you need weed? Go do something else with your cash instead of wanting to trip because your not man enough to deal with reality

(Original post by hvh)
I am female and you are ignorant.

Why would anyone be STUPID enough to get done for smuggling WEED when they can easily grow it here?

Do us all a favour and go purchase the book called Reefer Madness - Sex, Drugs and Cheap Labor in the American Black Market - Eric Schlosser. Don't worry, the first chapter is the only bit relevant to this subject then come back and continue this argument.

bro go learn about your hash. The best stuff comes from Morroco and a few other places like Tibet
Go be a rookie somewhere else yeah?

[Yung Mon£y]

(Original post by lightburns)
Sorry bro. The British Lung Foundation is wrong.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net...46083577_n.jpg, or typed out in quote below:


Want to know about the studies he's talking about? Sure! Here's an example!
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0526083353.htm
Want another? Sure!
http://www.ukcia.org/research/MjUseAndLungCancer.php
I can go at this all day!
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?t...eet%20A%202007

Not enough studies bro the papers even say so

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...a-cause-cancer

[maryam.]

in canada and some states in the usa it's used as a drug to help people with back problems. tbh it doesn't really 'solve' the problem, but then again prevention can seem better and is definitely cheaper than cure.
but back on to weed, i don't think it should be legalised. mainly because is affects the brain pretty badly and why would anyone want a messed up brain? the effects on the brain are things like confused judgment, distortion of the senses and decreased motor skills. not only that but it also affects the heart; effects on the heart include rapid heart rate and high blood pressure.
so in conclusion i think that the 'high' feeling isn't worth all the damage it does to the body

[Pitt1988]

(Original post by Yung Mon£y)
LOL what **** hole do you live in son? I aint got corner boys around here
If you remove the illegal stigma why wouldnt there be an increase in users?
How is giving more people cancer and making them go nuts a good idea? Weed is a gateway drug
What the **** is wrong with you lot that you need weed? Go do something else with your cash instead of wanting to trip because your not man enough to deal with reality



bro go learn about your hash. The best stuff comes from Morroco and a few other places like Tibet
Go be a rookie somewhere else yeah?

I'm going to give up talking to you as you seem to have no grasp and understanding of what smoking actually does to you. I get the impression that you seem to think that you trip out as if you are on LSD, then slip into a terrible world of a paranoid delusion, followed by actively going out to murder somebody.

It's ridiculous!!!!

And by the way, as I said when I first posted on here. I do not smoke! So don't accuse me of not being 'man' enough to deal with reality, you patronising idiot! But the people I know who do get on with life with no problem whatsoever!

That gateway drug stuff, if we break it down. When a study is done that asks drug users what drug they started with and they say weed, can you not see that the involvement of drug dealers has something to do with the development into other drugs?

People are not as feeble minded as you'd think, they do have their own personal morals, such as 'I wouldn't smoke weed, sniff coke, steal from someone' etc.

And ffs stop calling people 'bro' and 'son', you just sound like a tool. Oh and watch that Bill Hicks video that someone posted above, in fact go on yourtube and watch more of his stuff.

[Yung Mon£y]

(Original post by Pitt1988)
I'm going to give up talking to you as you seem to have no grasp and understanding of what smoking actually does to you. I get the impression that you seem to think that you trip out as if you are on LSD, then slip into a terrible world of a paranoid delusion, followed by actively going out to murder somebody.

It's ridiculous!!!!

And by the way, as I said when I first posted on here. I do not smoke! So don't accuse me of not being 'man' enough to deal with reality, you patronising idiot! But the people I know who do get on with life with no problem whatsoever!

That gateway drug stuff, if we break it down. When a study is done that asks drug users what drug they started with and they say weed, can you not see that the involvement of drug dealers has something to do with the development into other drugs?

People are not as feeble minded as you'd think, they do have their own personal morals, such as 'I wouldn't smoke weed, sniff coke, steal from someone' etc.

And ffs stop calling people 'bro' and 'son', you just sound like a tool.

Bro you dont trip, but paranoia and **** does happen
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...delusions.html

Bet you thought you were taking the piss when you said go out and kill someone

I know a lad who used to smack around his bird when he wasnt high because of the withdrawal he used to go through so step out of your crystal palace once in a while yeah?

Maybe it is to do with dealers maybe it isnt but what is feasible is that once they start on weed they say hey this aint so bad what else is there? No reason after stepping out of a cafe they arent going to go looking for illegal stuff

[n00]

(Original post by Yung Mon£y)
Son youve no idea about where weed comes from and your probably oblivious as to the measures Spains had to introduce to combat weed from morroco so keep living your teeny bubble life and thinking you know what your on about when you dont

Ah measures like Spanish towns renting out land to grow cannabis and having a constitution that protects the right to grow and consume cannabis on private property?

[cl_steele]

(Original post by Giant)
Of course; it is no less harmful than cigarettes or alcohol and it is less addictive than nicotine.

There is no serious reliable evidence that marijuana poses a serious health risk.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18283689
these people beg to differ...

[illusionz]

(Original post by Kennedy7697)
According to the sun ''smoking cannabis is 20 times more likely to give you cancer than smoking cigarettes.

Almost as reliable a source for controversial matters as the Daily Mail!