OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion

Maths exam discussion - share revision tips in preparation for GCSE, A Level and other maths exams and discuss how they went afterwards.

Announcements Posted on
TSR launches Learn Together! - Our new subscription to help improve your learning 16-05-2013
IMPORTANT: You must wait until midnight (morning exams)/4.30AM (afternoon exams) to discuss Edexcel exams and until 1pm/6pm the following day for STEP and IB exams. Please read before posting, including for rules for practical and oral exams. 28-04-2013
Sign in to Reply
  1. Amy-Rose's Avatar
    • Respected Member
    • Posts: 163
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    (Original post by TrampingRampage)
    I need an A* too I got 85 UMS in C3 so I am retaking that, but ideally I hope this goes well because I don't have time to do much for C3 with my other exams.
    I am dreading the comprehension so badly, and I hope silly mistakes don't occur because you can't afford to lose any marks in Paper A given the unpredictable Paper B (I liked the Sudoku comprehension but didn't dig the others). I just hope this paper is a good one!

    Good luck everyone!
    I panicked in the C3 exam so did rather badly, but just to see how I was doing, the other day I did a random paper and got 69/72 without any real revision so feeling much better. You never know. I agree on the sudoku one, I really enjoyed that one. The geometric sequence one was alright too.

    But omg the waves one :'(
  2. TrampingRampage's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Location: West Midlands
    • Posts: 306
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    (Original post by Amy-Rose)
    I panicked in the C3 exam so did rather badly, but just to see how I was doing, the other day I did a random paper and got 69/72 without any real revision so feeling much better. You never know. I agree on the sudoku one, I really enjoyed that one. The geometric sequence one was alright too.

    But omg the waves one :'(
    Wow that's really good and with no revision, I guess C3 is still fresh in your mind! Yeah when I did the past papers before doing the January C3 I got near full marks, but the January C3 paper was extremely difficult for me, and I also panicked which made it worse.. But I think the pressure of knowing this is the last time for me to get it right for an A* is making me all panicky so I hope I can relax..

    It's just the degree of unpredictability of the comprehension I don't like, and the boundaries for A* are ridiculously high for some (like the 83/90 for the Jan 09 one for 90 UMS! That paper wasn't THAT EASY) but fingers crossed because the Jan 12 papers were quite difficult, our papers this time will be reasonable

    I haven't done the waves one :P I saw it and was put off immediately haha! Have you done most of them? I have only tried three comprehension ones, and I only get around 10-14 marks

    Good luck on your exams!
    Last edited by TrampingRampage; 10-06-2012 at 23:13.
  3. Landa's Avatar
    • New Member
    • Posts: 3
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    How do you remember the trig indentities ???
    having difficulties with this
  4. Amy-Rose's Avatar
    • Respected Member
    • Posts: 163
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    (Original post by Landa)
    How do you remember the trig indentities ???
    having difficulties with this
    There's only really 7 that I had to 'learn' and just spend half an hour rewriting them in different colours, thats what I did last week and I can still remember them.

    Ones like cosec(theta)=1/sin(theta) are easy to remember as it is 1/(the one that starts with the third letter) ie. cosec=sin, cot=tan, sec=cos, if you didn't already know that trick.

    Just write them all down on the question paper in a list once you get in, and when you need to use them, refer to the list and pick the one you need.
  5. rasklatz's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Location: London
    • Posts: 284
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    Anyone got any tips for comprehension? I assume we are allowed highlighters?
  6. laura94's Avatar
    • Peer Of The TSR Realm
    • Posts: 1,404
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    For me the comprehension (I hope/beg) will be fine, as I tend to get full marks on them.
    Paper A though..... ohhhh dear. I'll be so devastated if I don't get an A overall, not only because I'll miss my uni offer but also because I've worked so damn hard at maths this year, doing both AS and A2 at once. I think I only need a high C to get an A overall but at the moment, I'm not even sure I'll get that
  7. steven hawking's Avatar
    • Junior Member
    • Posts: 52
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    Does anybody have the Jan 2012 paper please?
    thanks
  8. Fatima0065's Avatar
    • Adored and Respected Member
    • Posts: 579
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    Are you just doing past papers as practice and going over questions that you got wrong? any other ways of getting a high grade in this paper?? wud be grateful for all ur suggestions..thanks
  9. nju's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 395
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    (Original post by steven hawking)
    Does anybody have the Jan 2012 paper please?
    thanks
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...%20june%202012
  10. nju's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 395
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    http://mei.org.uk/files/papers/c409ju_as36.pdf

    Could someone please help me with q7)i as I don't get why they changed the signs of the direction in the vector equation bit
  11. Ninjaelephant's Avatar
    • Junior Member
    • Posts: 26
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    (Original post by nju)
    http://mei.org.uk/files/papers/c409ju_as36.pdf

    Could someone please help me with q7)i as I don't get why they changed the signs of the direction in the vector equation bit
    not sure but I don't think the sign matters in that part as they both take you along the line, just in a different direction.

    however, not completely sure as im not that good at maths
  12. nju's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 395
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    (Original post by Ninjaelephant)
    not sure but I don't think the sign matters in that part as they both take you along the line, just in a different direction.

    however, not completely sure as im not that good at maths
    Sorry I don't think my question was clear. The vector AB is -1x-2y so when you are writing the vector equation why does the direction bit change to 1x+2y
  13. Ninjaelephant's Avatar
    • Junior Member
    • Posts: 26
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    (Original post by nju)
    Sorry I don't think my question was clear. The vector AB is -1x-2y so when you are writing the vector equation why does the direction bit change to 1x+2y
    according to mymaths, there are multiple ways to write the vector equation of a line and instead of doing the usual r = a + lambda(b-a) you can also do
    r = b + lambda(a-b). hope this helps but if not try looking on mymaths if you have access to it.
  14. nju's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 395
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    (Original post by Ninjaelephant)
    according to mymaths, there are multiple ways to write the vector equation of a line and instead of doing the usual r = a + lambda(b-a) you can also do
    r = b + lambda(a-b). hope this helps but if not try looking on mymaths if you have access to it.
    Oh I get what you mean thanks for your help
  15. Fatima0065's Avatar
    • Adored and Respected Member
    • Posts: 579
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    Hi! can someone help me please...basicaly you know when you find angles from the trig equations..when you need to find angles between 0-360 what do you do with sin and cos i know that for tan you add 180.
    oh and for 0-720 ...if that makes sense
  16. LastHype's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 360
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    (Original post by Amy-Rose)
    There's only really 7 that I had to 'learn' and just spend half an hour rewriting them in different colours, thats what I did last week and I can still remember them.

    Ones like cosec(theta)=1/sin(theta) are easy to remember as it is 1/(the one that starts with the third letter) ie. cosec=sin, cot=tan, sec=cos, if you didn't already know that trick.
    Asides from the obvious 3, what are the other 4 we "need" to know?
  17. Amy-Rose's Avatar
    • Respected Member
    • Posts: 163
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    (Original post by LastHype)
    Asides from the obvious 3, what are the other 4 we "need" to know?
    I never said you "need" to know any! My personal way of tackling trig questions is to have the list I've learnt to work from, you may need to learn fewer than them and that's fine...

    sin^2x+cos^2x=1
    tan^2x+1=sec^2x
    cot^2x+1=cosec^2x

    sin2x=2sinxcosx
    cos2x=cos^2x-sin^2x
    cos2x=1-2sin^2x
    cos2x=2cos^2x-1

    tan2x=2tanx/1-tan^2x
  18. Fatima0065's Avatar
    • Adored and Respected Member
    • Posts: 579
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    im gona ask all the questions i'm not sure about,,,her's one basically
    whe you have rsin(x-alpha) or rsin(x-alpha)
    and they ask you how to find the coordinates of the turning pointsh, how would you do this i know, that r=x so is the min or max value but how would you find the coordiantes for each...thanks in advance..
    and could anyone be kind enough to explain q6 on june 2002 paper and why lamda is 3 in Q7 ii)
    Last edited by Fatima0065; 12-06-2012 at 21:59.
  19. LastHype's Avatar
    • Exalted Member
    • Posts: 360
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    (Original post by Amy-Rose)
    I never said you "need" to know any! My personal way of tackling trig questions is to have the list I've learnt to work from, you may need to learn fewer than them and that's fine...

    sin^2x+cos^2x=1
    tan^2x+1=sec^2x
    cot^2x+1=cosec^2x

    sin2x=2sinxcosx
    cos2x=cos^2x-sin^2x
    cos2x=1-2sin^2x
    cos2x=2cos^2x-1

    tan2x=2tanx/1-tan^2x
    Ah thank you muchas! I wasn't trying to imply that you'd said that, my teacher thinks it's absolutely vital, hence my "".
  20. Amy-Rose's Avatar
    • Respected Member
    • Posts: 163
    Re: OCR MEI C4 [June 14th] Discussion
    (Original post by LastHype)
    Ah thank you muchas! I wasn't trying to imply that you'd said that, my teacher thinks it's absolutely vital, hence my "".
    Your teacher suggested you needed them and didn't give you a list or anything? Harsh. Anyway, no problem!
    Last edited by Amy-Rose; 12-06-2012 at 21:24.
Sign in to Reply
Share this discussion:  
Article updates
Moderators

We have a brilliant team of more than 60 volunteers looking after discussions on The Student Room, helping to make it a fun, safe and useful place to hang out.

Reputation gems:
The Reputation gems seen here indicate how well reputed the user is, red gem indicate negative reputation and green indicates a good rep.
Post rating score:
These scores show if a post has been positively or negatively rated by our members.