[AspiringGenius]

(Original post by Fusionary)
What has poverty levels got to do with anything? I mean sure, it could lead to a better standard of education but does that compromise hard work and motivation to do well. If you're poor say, you may be encouraged to work harder perhaps.

nice theory but it doesn't work that way in reality. if you live in that situation, you are encouraged to get a job as quickly as you can after leaving school. This often translates into get out of school as quickly as possible, which inevitably leads to the failure of exams as they aren't that important to those people.

[Phantom Lord]

(Original post by pshewitt1)
maybe it;s the education system and not the students...we can only be as good as our teachers(at least initially)

What do you mean, teachers are making white people underachieve?

[doggyfizzel]

People getting trolled so badly in this thread.

[pokemontah!]

white people are underachieving for a number of reasons:

1: institutional racism: white students are constantly told they are evil and that it would be better if they mixed themselves out of existence. also, white students are marked down in test scores.

2: educational hostility: white students are propagandised by teaching staff to have negative or neutral views about their ethnic identity. however, ethnic identity is promoted for ethnic minorities.

3: resource racism: white areas are underfunded in comparison with ares of large ethnic minority groups.

4: cultural racism: white students are told in the media that learning is not 'cool'. they are told that all that matters is how to put condoms on bananas and how to behave properly around homosexuals.

5: i wish i was only half joking.

[Roaroaroar]

(Original post by Plums&Peaches)
This doesn't undermine the work ethic or intelligence of these other ethnic group but goes to show just how racist these universities are, even in this day and age

What a disgusting attitude you have. Stop playing this victim mentality.

Have you checked the statistics of how many people from those races apply to those universities? And how many get in?
Have you checked their results in comparison to the results whites?

No, you probably haven't. 15% of Cambridge are from Black, Asian and Minority Ethnicity. Less than 15% of Britain consists of Black, Asian and Minority Ethnicities. There's in fact a slight over representation. Don't have such a victim-mentality.

[Plums&Peaches]

(Original post by Roaroaroar)
What a disgusting attitude you have. Stop playing this victim mentality.

Have you checked the statistics of how many people from those races apply to those universities? And how many get in?
Have you checked their results in comparison to the results whites?

No, you probably haven't. 15% of Cambridge are from Black, Asian and Minority Ethnicity. Less than 15% of Britain consists of Black, Asian and Minority Ethnicities. There's in fact a slight over representation. Don't have such a victim-mentality.

Shut up if you bothered to read any of my other posts you would know that's not my attitude.

And I was merely making a statement that universities can't be used to judge anything as Elitist universities have often been criticised for being racist. That's all. I have said nothing of being the victim. Stop making baseless assumptions. Think before you post. What a disgusting lack of politeness you have.

[dgeorge]

(Original post by Hearty_Beast)
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Hmmm...

I'm wondering the same thing myself

[chaosdestro0]

Because they are from families who value hard work? Their great grand parents would have been likely to be very poor, hence why there is more of a pressure on their children.

[Roaroaroar]

(Original post by Plums&Peaches)
Shut up if you bothered to read any of my other posts you would know that's not my attitude.

And I was merely making a statement that universities can't be used to judge anything as Elitist universities have often been criticised for being racist. That's all. I have said nothing of being the victim. Stop making baseless assumptions. Think before you post. What a disgusting lack of politeness you have.

They clearly aren't racist considering they're talking a good proportion amount of ethnic minorities in comparison to general population level. And even if they weren't, there could be other reasons at play. You accused them of being racist and played the victim card.

[Plums&Peaches]

(Original post by Roaroaroar)
They clearly aren't racist considering they're talking a good proportion amount of ethnic minorities in comparison to general population level. And even if they weren't, there could be other reasons at play. You accused them of being racist and played the victim card.

So plain facts now means victim card, interesting. I like how you automatically assume that I'm in that minority. Even though i am, it's quite a boisterous assumption to make.
Also, you're pretty ignorant if you don't know this obvious knews that universities like Oxbridge are contantly accused of being racist. 'Accused' being my main point there. I don't care about what the actual figures are. You don't seem to understand what i was trying to say.

[Plums&Peaches]

(Original post by the.cookie.monster)
Was it me or was there a thread a day ago that was 'Why are black people underachieving?' o_O

This is a troll in response to that

[Hopple]

(Original post by Topcat19)
They don't seem to underachieve by much, you might ask why are white brits and afro caribbean brits underachieving, probably a shared problem, and also perhaps to solve the problem are indians hot housing their children or is there a less distressing reason for the statistic.

Lol, the national average is effectively dictated by white Brits What you can see is that white Brits (and everyone not Indian) are falling short of their potential. Indians probably are too, but without knowing the theoretical maximum in our current educational setup, 90.1% is the highest goal we know is possible.

[Blackburn_Allen]

Ludicrous assumption. A lot of working class "white boys" end up working in the labour sector, for which you require very little state qualifications, if any.

Underachievement should be measured by the employment statistics or state of the individual community, by that I mean crime rates, poverty and general upkeep of said neighbourhood. Basing the achievements of an entire race based on GCSE results/university attendance is one of, if not thee, most ridiculous thing I've heard.

[Aramiss18]

(Original post by Plums&Peaches)
And I was merely making a statement that universities can't be used to judge anything as Elitist universities have often been criticised for being racist. That's all. I have said nothing of being the victim. Stop making baseless assumptions. Think before you post. What a disgusting lack of politeness you have.

By whom? Sources? This is incredible. Given how far I've seen my department go to increase the attractiveness of the department to minorities I think this opinion is very strong and not one I agree with. Minorities are grossly overrepresented in the prospectus and the department website (for interviews and photos) in a bid to make the department seem more accessible. There may be many reasons why minorities only account for around 5% of the department's student population but racism is not one the reasons.

[Plums&Peaches]

(Original post by Aramiss18)
By whom? Sources? This is incredible. Given how far I've seen my department go to increase the attractiveness of the department to minorities I think this opinion is very strong and not one I agree with. Minorities are grossly overrepresented in the prospectus and the department website (for interviews and photos) in a bid to make the department seem more accessible. There may be many reasons why minorities only account for around 5% of the department's student population but racism is not one the reasons.

I have seen plenty of artices accusing universities of being recist. I didn't say this was my opinion.

[Aramiss18]

(Original post by Plums&Peaches)
I have seen plenty of artices accusing universities of being recist. I didn't say this was my opinion.

"goes to show just how racist these universities are, even in this day and age "

Looks like your opinion.

[Plums&Peaches]

(Original post by Aramiss18)
"goes to show just how racist these universities are, even in this day and age "

Looks like your opinion.

Think what ever you want. I welcome your opinion, that's just what the impression I got from the person who I quoted which ofcourse you didn't bother to look at Instead you choose to skew my post into something you wish to argue with.

[chapman.]

If us whites lived up to our skinhead stereotypes maybe we could burn all the ethnics and then we'd rule the league tables

[Phantom Lord]

(Original post by Topcat19)
They don't seem to underachieve by much,

They'll always be near the national average because they are most of the pupils.

[Mr Einstein]

Ha brilliant!