Do you think this is animal cruelty?
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Re: Do you think this is animal cruelty?
i don't think they should have put the hamster on a slide - could have frightened it- a form of emotional torture perhaps?
stress can also kill small animals - this may have stressed it out.
and it could have hurt the animal's feet, i don't know much about the physiology of hamsters, but i could imagine the speed, and the drop in relation to the size could have been a bit like shaking a baby - i dunno.
they may not have been aware of the possible effect of what they were doing though.
there was a link to one where the hampster was in its coffin- aparently it had died - so i looked at that for more perspective, it was a bit wierd filming that - doesn't this kid have better things to be doing? it does show a lack of respect but not prove cruel - there was nothing to suggest how it had died.
i don't think it looked tortured in this one- although i wouldn't see any internal damage. i say this because a commenter said it looked like it had been harmed. i saw a marking on it - it could have been blood but it may well have also been a natural spot of colour on the fur - the camera wasn't great.
I wouldn't class this as 'torture' just a kid not really knowing what they were doing/being a bit stupid. but there is definitely a lack of consideration on the child's part.
compared to some other stuff that is supposed to be lurking around youtube this is mild- but that doesn't excuse it. if you think its cruelty, flag it.
oh right yeh - i forgot half of tsr doesn't like thought out and explained opinions...Last edited by brunettegirl92; 07-08-2012 at 03:24. -
Re: Do you think this is animal cruelty?
I wouldn't call it animal cruelty, irresponsible yes, but not cruel. I would be more worried about the hamster running off whilst it was outside tbh.
My rats do all sorts of stupid things whilst free-roaming in my room, I would rather they had an enjoyable life than be stuck in the cage 24/7. I do not agree with wrapping pets in bubblewrap (figure of speech) provided it enriches their life, not just their owners.
Youtubers are ridiculous full stop, the comments on a video are usually far more cruel than the video itself on lack of spelling alone :') -
Re: Do you think this is animal cruelty?
Well, they clearly weren't trying to be cruel, but it's a bit stupid.
Hamsters are delicate little things and if it went sliding off the edge at a highish speed it might hurt itself. Imagine turning up to the vets saying 'hey, I think my hamster my have broke its leg'...'How did that happen?'...'Well, I, uh, put on him on the slide in the back garden 'cause I thought he'd enjoy it'...you'd feel like such a tool!
On another note, I personally wouldn't do it as it's kinda hard to know whether the hamster likes it or not, but as long as the're careful... -
Re: Do you think this is animal cruelty?Looks like it's time for the latest installment of The Amazing Adventures of Historical Perspective Man!(Original post by sarahthegemini)
Why do people have no respect for animals anymore? They're not toys that you can play about with for your own amusement.
It betrays an astounding ignorance of the history the of human/animal relationship to ask why people have no respect for animals anymore.
People have not recently lost respect for animals, nor is the overall trend one towards less respect. For much of the history of human civilisation, tormenting animals, or putting them in brutal fights to the death against humans or other animals, was considered perfectly acceptable entertainment. Even when educated opinion largely turned against this in some parts of the world, it continued to be enjoyed by a good portion of society for many years. Indeed, it still continues in some places, both formally and informally. It is only recently, and only in some parts of the world, that concerns for animal welfare--and even animal rights--have come to be mainstream.
That's all for now! Be sure to look out for more installments of The Amazing Adventures of Historical Perspective Man!Last edited by AdvanceAndVanquish; 05-08-2012 at 04:08. -
Re: Do you think this is animal cruelty?They have nothing better to do.(Original post by ZOMFG_it'sCaiters)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGDi3...eature=related
All it is, is a hamster sliding down a slide? Why do people overreact? -
Re: Do you think this is animal cruelty?I looked deep into his soul, and he cried out to me through his eyes saying "please, please help me", and my heart wept.(Original post by Cephalus)
I think this video is absolutely sick.
You could see his reluctance to slide, you could see the terror in his eyes.
This is animal abuse.
What next, put him in a bin to see how much he likes the dark?
Then I realised that it's just a nonchalant hamster on a slide. -
Re: Do you think this is animal cruelty?Well I think nonchalant isn't the word(Original post by lightburns)
I looked deep into his soul, and he cried out to me through his eyes saying "please, please help me", and my heart wept.
Then I realised that it's just a nonchalant hamster on a slide.
Let's see how relaxed you feel being forced to go down a slide at what must have felt like 40mph for the little guy
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Re: Do you think this is animal cruelty?Look at him though, he's not struggling. He may be a bit scared, but not enough to piss himself.(Original post by Cephalus)
Well I think nonchalant isn't the word
Let's see how relaxed you feel being forced to go down a slide at what must have felt like 40mph for the little guy
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Re: Do you think this is animal cruelty?This is what I hate about animal rights campaigner. if someone kills a sewer rat nobody cares, but if somebody kills an urban fox they go crazy! They are both overpopulated and dangerous pests.(Original post by Ra Ra Ra)
There's a video on Youtube where someone puts ants into a blender. I'd say that's more of a case of animal cruelty (though others would disagree: not fluffy=not giving a damn) than putting a hamster on a slide. That said, how does anyone know how it felt about the incident? I mean, come on, it's a furry little blob with limited facial expressions. Saying 'oh, it looked like it was having fun' makes no sense, unless you're experts in hamster body language or I'm missing something here
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Re: Do you think this is animal cruelty?Hamsters are prone to heart attacks, so this could have killed it.(Original post by Polka Dot)
No its not. In fact it is probably quite mentally stimulating compared to being stuck in a cage all day and only coming out to be monotonously stroked and petted.
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Re: Do you think this is animal cruelty?
I don't think it's cruel!
I used to dress my cat in dolly clothes when I was little and wheel her around in a pram lol. I don't think she particularly enjoyed it and sometimes she'd get fed up after a bit and run off but I never physically hurt her. If I had hurt her she would have made noises and scratched me and if she'd been really upset by it then she would have just left home because that's what cats do when they aren't happy with their owners. (she wasn't one of those indoor cats kept in a flat or anything, she's always had a flap so she could go outside whenever she felt like it).
If the hamster really hated going down the slide and he was upset or in pain then I'm sure he would have bitten the owner. Also... I'm no animal expert but surely if his paws were burning from the friction then he would instinctively roll onto his back or something? I've had hamsters and I used to see them roll around sometimes so they obviously can do it. -
Well that does look quite inconsiderate tbh, I think it looked scared.
But that got 3 million views- real animal abuse, like THIS only gets 1000.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uyCjOkpqqzE
(WARNING- do not watch if you'll get too upset or easily nauseated, it's a video of a woman eating a frog)
It's blinking! Absolutely awful.
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