[goape]

(Original post by Mr Dangermouse)
I have gay friends and I'm a perfectly straight guy.

Dude, your shocking the TSR system. In TSR land, straight guys cannot be friends with gay guys or girls.

[Hopple]

(Original post by SophiaKeuning)
Well I'm not asking you to parade around in your underwear in front of gay guys, am I? Is that your criteria for friendship? You can still be perfectly close with a friend while also being aware of sexuality.

It's not a criteria for friendship, but I would say you are not as close a friend to someone who you exclude from certain activities. You're harbouring 'suspicions' (for want of a better word) and guarding against possible attraction.

Oddly, I'd happily get changed in front of a lesbian/bi-sexual woman, if I knew her.

Would you get changed in front of gay guys? Just trying to work out whether it's gender or possible sexual attraction you have issue with. Or maybe each is half a reason but they have to be put together for you to say no

[Plums&Peaches]

(Original post by goape)
Dude, your shocking the TSR system. In TSR land, straight guys cannot be friends with gay guys or girls.

oooh controversial

[DawnRaider]

In case we drop the soap in the shower one day.. ?

[snozzle]

Gays want to be friends with other gays.

[SophiaKeuning]

(Original post by Hopple)
It's not a criteria for friendship, but I would say you are not as close a friend to someone who you exclude from certain activities. You're harbouring 'suspicions' (for want of a better word) and guarding against possible attraction.



Would you get changed in front of gay guys? Just trying to work out whether it's gender or possible sexual attraction you have issue with. Or maybe each is half a reason but they have to be put together for you to say no

I've had a close gay friend and have gotten changed infront of him.

I was going to say I wouldn't get changed infront of a straight guy unless I was really close to him, because I don't want to be thought of that way, and obviously naturally when undressed it's hard not for guys to look. I realise what I said is similar to the first post I slated. However, I'd never think 'I don't want to be looked at that way' by straight guys if I was fully dressed. Because obviously some are still attracted but it's far less sexual than walking around in barley nothing. So I still think it's a bit ridiculous for straight guys to think about being looked at sexually by gay guys when dressed, because it's not hurting anyone and is natural. And is far less sexually charged than getting undressed. If they were all over a gay guy in underwear then that's kinda disrespectful and you can't really complain.

The main problem lies in men thinking other men being attracted to them is vile. That shows non-accetance of their friends sexuality and therefore weakens the friendship. It's the repulsion of the notion of their gay friend fancying them that is the problem.

[Donald Duck]

1) I've got several gay friends, so maybe it's just you...
2) Though guys tend to have both male and female friends, in my experience, a significant proportion of guys hangs out with other guys a lot more than other girls.

[Hopple]

(Original post by SophiaKeuning)
I've had a close gay friend and have gotten changed infront of him.

I was going to say I wouldn't get changed infront of a straight guy unless I was really close to him, because I don't want to be thought of that way, and obviously naturally when undressed it's hard not for guys to look. I realise what I said is similar to the first post I slated. However, I'd never think 'I don't want to be looked at that way' by straight guys if I was fully dressed. Because obviously some are still attracted but it's far less sexual than walking around in barley nothing. So I still think it's a bit ridiculous for straight guys to think about being looked at sexually by gay guys when dressed, because it's not hurting anyone and is natural. And is far less sexually charged than getting undressed. If they were all over a gay guy in underwear then that's kinda disrespectful and you can't really complain.

The main problem lies in men thinking other men being attracted to them is vile. That shows non-accetance of their friends sexuality and therefore weakens the friendship. It's the repulsion of the notion of their gay friend fancying them that is the problem.

Oh, I was more arguing that because you still see the potential to be 'lusted' after, you won't become as close a friend. I realise you can still be friends, just I think the same core reason why women don't let straight guys get as close is the same reason why non-homophobic straight guys might keep gay guys at a distance too. Would you agree with that? Not sure if that's some biological compulsion or societal brainwashing though

[ct2k7]

From what I've heard, simply because they're afraid that the gay guy will make a move on him.

My response: WTF. Do you even know if he's attracted to you? NO so GTFO.

[jakeisthebest]

I'm gay, but I'm still 'in the closet' so no one really know I'm gay (although even though I haven't told them, I assume most of my close friends know I'm gay anyway), but I find it really hard to make friends with straight guys. I went to an all boys secondary school, so naturally I had to and did make friends with guys there. It's two years since I left secondary school, and I now go to, well technically left except for exams, a mixed sixth form. Since starting here, I have made no new close friends with guys, but have many new friends that our girls. The only two close guy friends that I still have went to my secondary school. I don't act very feminine at all really, so guys wouldn't be put off being my friend because of that. What I'm basically trying to get across, is that gay guys find it hard to make friends with straight guys as well.