How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-Ukraine
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineCompared to the UK they are both quite xenophobic cultures, especially S Korea.(Original post by prog2djent)
Japan, S>Korea. -
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineThey might be advanced but it doesn't mean they are not racist...(Original post by prog2djent)
Let's look at some other advanced homogenous nations OP.
Most of scandanavia, Japan, S>Korea.
Your argument is junk.
Comparing Poland and the Ukraine to the UK and those nations just doesn't work.
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oh I see others have already picked you up on this. Just goes to showLast edited by a.partridge; 08-06-2012 at 21:55. -
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineTheir are racists in every country in the world. But i think there's more chance of the minority becoming racist in a homogeneous country than one where people mix daily and understand each other's religion and culture. Poland isn't a racist country but there is clearly a very vocal minority who aim to tarnish the reputation of their own country.
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineYou are forgeting politics did have a role to play in that world cup. There were some obvious match fixing going on, with korea benefiting.(Original post by I Kant Spall)
Were black players harassed at the '02 World Cup in two other racially homogeneous countries, Korea and Japan? These are two prosperous countries with high standards of living and, on the topic of football, decent national teams as well.
I'll answer that for you: no, they were not. It was the most well-organized World Cup in my lifetime. Saying that an absence of multiculturalism is the reason why racist chants or the threat of racist violence is expected this tournament is insulting to the countries who don't wholeheartedly embrace multiculturalism but still managed to host a respectful sporting atmosphere.
Political/societal issues like multiculturalism and immigration have no relevance to a football tournament, and it's upsetting to those who just want to watch the beautiful game to have to hear this constant drivel from the media. -
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineI think you mean a multi-racial society not a multi-cultural one. I do agree that both societies would be very similar though in terms of the white working class if it wasn't for that immigration from the 2nd world war onwards.
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-Ukrainethink about much less crime britain had before it went all 'multicultural'
poland compared to britain is almost crime free. i think britain needs to become more like poland. -
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineI am a Ukrainian, and my whole family are currently ashamed to call ourselves Ukrainian. It is disgusting that the Racism in Ukraine has reached such levels, and rather then boosting its economy using tourism and the world cup, they are very quickly destroying it. I'm ashamed, and am very glad that Britain is multicultural and accepting of most ethnicities.
People can go into a historical discussion about its past in the USSR ( my mother has told me stories about her life in the USSR and its Racism ) but I don't believe it has any relevance to todays racism. Today's Ukrainain people are no longer constrained by Stalin and his rule, they have their own freedom to choose what is right and wrong and not fear for their lives, yet it is sad that there is still nations out there that even with this freedom, still do not know what is right and wrong. -
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-Ukraine(Original post by Mariarghh)
I am a Ukrainian, and my whole family are currently ashamed to call ourselves Ukrainian. It is disgusting that the Racism in Ukraine has reached such levels, and rather then boosting its economy using tourism and the world cup, they are very quickly destroying it. I'm ashamed, and am very glad that Britain is multicultural and accepting of most ethnicities.
People can go into a historical discussion about its past in the USSR ( my mother has told me stories about her life in the USSR and its Racism ) but I don't believe it has any relevance to todays racism. Today's Ukrainain people are no longer constrained by Stalin and his rule, they have their own freedom to choose what is right and wrong and not fear for their lives, yet it is sad that there is still nations out there that even with this freedom, still do not know what is right and wrong.
Please. Do not Fall for the anti polish/ racism in this thread. The BBC programme about your country has been exposed as a lie.
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=2025901
Just because a few racists exist it does not mean you should be ashamed of ukraine. The Ukrainian people are the victims of this racist bbc propaganda. You are a victim of racism because you have been made to feel guilty for something you have not done.
You shoud be thankful Ukraine is not multiracial. Britain has extremely high crime rates because of some ethnic minority groups.Last edited by pokemontah!; 08-06-2012 at 23:48. -
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineThe world cup in Qatar will be just as bad, if not worse.
Hopefully Euro 2012 will have such a bad reputation that FIFA think twice about where to host tournaments in future. -
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineBritain does not have "extremely high crime rates." Try visiting S. Africa or Somalia some time, then see how our crime rates compare.(Original post by pokemontah!)
You shoud be thankful Ukraine is not multiracial. Britain has extremely high crime rates because of some ethnic minority groups. -
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineWe need to increase the number of non whites in this country. Its simple.
Currently we are at 12% (predicted) for the 2011 census. IMO this is NOWHERE NEAR enough for a proper multiracial country, so I suggest we encourage immigration still until we become a truely coffee coloured society.
Look at America, becoming more mixed race, we need to compete with these guys in terms of diversity.
Is Britain too white?? You damn right it is but we will change that in time hopefully.
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineOne thing that can be said for Euro 2012 is it's focusing attention on these racist attitudes and getting people to confront this problem. I agree that it is a minority of Ukrainian/Polish fans displaying these abhorrent attitudes so it's good that other countries and ordinary Poles/Ukrainians now have the chance to say, clearly, that it is not acceptable.
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkrainePoland wasn't part of the USSR, revise history please.(Original post by meenu89)
Don't forget Poland and Ukraine (as part of the USSR) were stuck behind an 'Iron Curtain'. I don't think comparisons can be made. -
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineDid I say it was?(Original post by Ivanka)
Poland wasn't part of the USSR, revise history please.
I know it wasn't hence why included the explanation about Ukraine in brackets. Everyone else knew what I meant.Last edited by meenu89; 09-06-2012 at 17:47. -
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-Ukraine(Original post by kingsholmmad)
Britain does not have "extremely high crime rates." Try visiting S. Africa or Somalia some time, then see how our crime rates compare.
and who lives in those countries exactly??
and yes, britain has extremely high levels of crime. just because they are not at the levels of those countries it doe snot mean the levels are therefore acceptable. -
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineWell, I'm gonna take a rough stab in the dark here and suggest South Africans and Somalis live in those countries. You no doubt have an entirely balanced and valid reason why they shouldn't have the same rights to law and justice that we have?(Original post by pokemontah!)
and who lives in those countries exactly??
and yes, britain has extremely high levels of crime. just because they are not at the levels of those countries it doe snot mean the levels are therefore acceptable.
"Extremely high" is a comparative not an absolute. Compared to the rest of Western Europe our rates don't look brilliant; compared to the rest of the world we are doing better than most. That means that not only are our crime rates not "extremely high", they are, if anything, below average on a global scale. Prove me wrong. -
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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineOK, I apologise, I thought that Poland was included there as well.(Original post by meenu89)
Did I say it was?
I know it wasn't hence why included the explanation about Ukraine in brackets. Everyone else knew what I meant.
