[Harry Callahan]

(Original post by Beebumble)
Oh the irony.

Where on earth did I say white British men gang rape? In fact I said "the amount of perverts working alone"

Like I said work on your comprehension skills.

Sign of a poor argument when you feel the need to comment on someone's grammatical skills.

[Beebumble]

(Original post by Harry Callahan)
Sign of a poor argument when you feel the need to comment on someone's grammatical skills.

Even though their whole argument was because of their poor grammar skills.

[Bonged.]

(Original post by Beebumble)
People won't be safer without multiculturalism but we should stop it because people might be safer without multiculturalism. Bit contradictory.

Less children would be raped by racist pakistani gangs without multiculturalism. What confuses you about this?

[Bonged.]

(Original post by Beebumble)
Even though their whole argument was because of their poor grammar skills.

Explain. You're making a total fool of yourself.

[Beebumble]

(Original post by Bonged.)
Less children would be raped by racist pakistani gangs without multiculturalism. What confuses you about this?

Less children will be raped by men if we were without men. Should we stop abolish men?

[Princessofhistory]

There would be less crime and people would say what they think more rather than curtsying around things at the risk of sounding racist.

[Bonged.]

(Original post by Beebumble)
Less children will be raped by men if we were without men. Should we stop abolish men?

Lol. Do you think that counts as a counter argument?

Back to the original point - how many Ukrainian or Polish children have been raped by racially motivated gangs of paedophiles? Whats that you say? None? Hm. Could this indicate why Polish and Ukrainian people would rather give "multicultural enrichment" a miss? What do you think, Einstein?

[Beebumble]

(Original post by Bonged.)
Explain. You're making a total fool of yourself.

Your point being? .

(Original post by Beebumble)
My point is that Britain is not going to become this safe little haven if you banned anyone non-white.

So, you don't have a point. Nice one.

(Original post by Beebumble)
These big gangs are nothing on the amount of perverts working alone

On a massive scale white british men gang rape non-white children in Britain? Evidence pls.

There you go.

[Bonged.]

(Original post by Beebumble)
There you go.

Oh yeah, could I see that evidence that this whole new racially motivated paedophile rape gang malarkey is a two way street? Cheers.

[Beebumble]

(Original post by Bonged.)
Lol. Do you think that counts as a counter argument?

Back to the original point - how many Ukrainian or Polish children have been raped by racially motivated gangs of paedophiles? Whats that you say? None? Hm. Could this indicate why Polish and Ukrainian people would rather give "multicultural enrichment" a miss? What do you think, Einstein?

So you think we she should give everything that may harm someone a miss? Even though there are still far more other dangers.

[Beebumble]

(Original post by Bonged.)
Oh yeah, could I see that evidence that this whole new racially motivated paedophile rape gang malarkey is a two way street? Cheers.

It was evidence of how you failed to comprehend. Nothing else.

[Bonged.]

(Original post by Beebumble)
So you think we she should give everything that may harm someone a miss? Even though there are still far more other dangers.

"may harm someone"

When THOUSANDS of CHILDREN are being raped up and down the country - it might be a time to reconsider our multicultural experiment? Maybe? Perhaps? Although I do like a curry as much as the next bloke - thanks multiculturalism. lol.

[Bonged.]

(Original post by Beebumble)
It was evidence of how you failed to comprehend. Nothing else.

So is it a two way street or is this utterly despicable and reprehensible practice perpetrated by people of one "community" (pakistanis) onto another community (poor white people)? Is that racist? Is that bad? Should it be avoided?

If I'm mistaken and gangs of poor white men have been roaming the streets of bradford looking for young hijabi girls and raping, and sometimes murdering them, I do apologise.

[Princessofhistory]

I love how the majority of Tsr members are all for multiculturalism when in reality they probably live in the most sheltered environments known to man. The type of people that have one black friend who's nice to them and they think he's Usher. Yet if you actually lived in a diverse area (where crime is usually rife), you take a one way ticket back to suburbia. I invite you all to live in social housing, where crowds of black males congregate on a daily basis, sell drugs, fight for the honour of their postcodes and generally intimidate people. Forgive me if you live in similar circumstances and haven't witnessed similar things but if you do live in social housing, I'm sure you have. I'm saying this as proud black girl but until the problems with the Afro-carribean community are addressed, multiculturalism has indeed failed. Too many working class black men just don't give a damn about anything, whether it's their education or if they go to jail. They have a set of values that are seperate from the rest of mainstream society, values which give them a false sense of entitlement and values which ultimately lead to crime.

[whyumadtho]

(Original post by Princessofhistory)
I love how the majority of Tsr members are all for multiculturalism when in reality they probably live in the most sheltered environments known to man. The type of people that have one black friend who's nice to them and they think he's Usher. Yet if you actually lived in a diverse area (where crime is usually rife), you take a one way ticket back to suburbia. I invite you all to live in social housing, where crowds of black males congregate on a daily basis, sell drugs, fight for the honour of their postcodes and generally intimidate people. Forgive me if you live in similar circumstances and haven't witnessed similar things but if you do live in social housing, I'm sure you have. I'm saying this as proud black girl but until the problems with the Afro-carribean community are addressed, multiculturalism has indeed failed. Too many working class black men just don't give a damn about anything, whether it's their education or if they go to jail. They have a set of values that are seperate from the rest of mainstream society, values which give them a false sense of entitlement and values which ultimately lead to crime.

Like in Glasgow? Adolescent gang crime is an endemic problem related to one's socioeconomic status and location, and cannot be attributed to any one ethnic group.

Social housing is associated with social problems around the country, not just in inner-city London where a large proportion of the occupants are ethnic minorities.

[thinbeard]

There would be a lot less crime.

Britain would probably have crime rates as low as Japan if it was not multicultural.

[thinbeard]

(Original post by Princessofhistory)
I love how the majority of Tsr members are all for multiculturalism when in reality they probably live in the most sheltered environments known to man. The type of people that have one black friend who's nice to them and they think he's Usher. Yet if you actually lived in a diverse area (where crime is usually rife), you take a one way ticket back to suburbia. I invite you all to live in social housing, where crowds of black males congregate on a daily basis, sell drugs, fight for the honour of their postcodes and generally intimidate people. Forgive me if you live in similar circumstances and haven't witnessed similar things but if you do live in social housing, I'm sure you have. I'm saying this as proud black girl but until the problems with the Afro-carribean community are addressed, multiculturalism has indeed failed. Too many working class black men just don't give a damn about anything, whether it's their education or if they go to jail. They have a set of values that are seperate from the rest of mainstream society, values which give them a false sense of entitlement and values which ultimately lead to crime.

Excellent and honest post. It will be up to people like yourself to tackle the problems as the rest of society has its head in the sand over the issues you raise.

[Ano1]

(Original post by Beebumble)
People won't be safer without multiculturalism but we should stop it because people might be safer without multiculturalism. Bit contradictory.

This response isn't about the rape trial, but just a general response and some food for thought on mass immigration and multiculturalism.

I done a business exam last month, based on a bit of culture. It gave me some thought, and I want the left to listen. And even the right, who think education/uni is a communist indoctrination tool.

In the revision, the most important cultural aspects for marketers to understand is:
- race/ethnicity
- language
- religion
- social class

and then things such as food consumption, organisational culture, family, sex, education, etc etc. And one I like to add, pop culture : )

People always ask, What is British culture? well, there it is. Think about it.
It's based on a collective majority White race, with a largely Christian values/Protestant work ethic (maybe not church goers every sunday and state/church separation) but you get the point.

Then there's language. We recently had a thread with 1 British girl, and 1 Polish girl, the rest non-European. But as long as they all pass their year 6 sats, everything is dandy? and the whole world knows about British social-classes which has been here for centuries anyway.

And people say mass immigration will have no affects on Britain.
Well for one, the change of culture is evident in the cities. And the change isn't just to American-consumerism. It's to a blend of at least 5 different cultures which will probably lead to balkanisation. e.g. tower hamlets, brixton. "this area, and that area".

Go ahead and neg & call me a 21 year old dinosaur with 'traditional or extreme' pov. But this isn't the case at all!

Immigration is Good!
Mass immigration is Not!
because multiculturalism does not work. Which the German and British PM's have agreed.

[Beebumble]

(Original post by Princessofhistory)
I love how the majority of Tsr members are all for multiculturalism when in reality they probably live in the most sheltered environments known to man. The type of people that have one black friend who's nice to them and they think he's Usher. Yet if you actually lived in a diverse area (where crime is usually rife), you take a one way ticket back to suburbia. I invite you all to live in social housing, where crowds of black males congregate on a daily basis, sell drugs, fight for the honour of their postcodes and generally intimidate people. Forgive me if you live in similar circumstances and haven't witnessed similar things but if you do live in social housing, I'm sure you have. I'm saying this as proud black girl but until the problems with the Afro-carribean community are addressed, multiculturalism has indeed failed. Too many working class black men just don't give a damn about anything, whether it's their education or if they go to jail. They have a set of values that are seperate from the rest of mainstream society, values which give them a false sense of entitlement and values which ultimately lead to crime.

Couldn't be more wrong about me I'm afraid. I went to a school where 90% of people were non-white and majority Muslim (and actually it has the best GCSE results in the borough and the only one to receive an outstanding ofsted report). My Mum's boyfriend is black and I know his family well. My Dad's white but not British and I've lived on various council estates.

They're problems within all communities but surely it would be better to eradicate the core of the problem instead of eradicating multiculturalism altogether.

[Beebumble]

(Original post by Ano1)
This response isn't about the rape trial, but just a general response and some food for thought on mass immigration and multiculturalism.

I done a business exam last month, based on a bit of culture. It gave me some thought, and I want the left to listen. And even the right, who think education/uni is a communist indoctrination tool.

In the revision, the most important cultural aspects for marketers to understand is:
- race/ethnicity
- language
- religion
- social class

and then things such as food consumption, organisational culture, family, sex, education, etc etc. And one I like to add, pop culture : )

People always ask, What is British culture? well, there it is. Think about it.
It's based on a collective majority White race, with a largely Christian values/Protestant work ethic (maybe not church goers every sunday and state/church separation) but you get the point.

Then there's language. We recently had a thread with 1 British girl, and 1 Polish girl, the rest non-European. But as long as they all pass their year 6 sats, everything is dandy? and the whole world knows about British social-classes which has been here for centuries anyway.

And people say mass immigration will have no affects on Britain.
Well for one, the change of culture is evident in the cities. And the change isn't just to American-consumerism. It's to a blend of at least 5 different cultures which will probably lead to balkanisation. e.g. tower hamlets, brixton. "this area, and that area".

Go ahead and neg & call me a 21 year old dinosaur with 'traditional or extreme' pov. But this isn't the case at all!

Immigration is Good!
Mass immigration is Not!
because multiculturalism does not work. Which the German and British PM's have agreed.

Why is change such a bad thing? I personally don't want to live in culture based on 'christian values' where being gay is a sin and women are property. I think religion is private matter and shouldn't be based on where you so happen to be born. The CoE is not going anywhere though and will remain the biggest religion in this country for some time. If it doesn't it'll be because of more people turning against non-organised religion in general.

Language is always evolving. The English language is already a mixture of Latin, French, German even some Indian and so many other languages. English is the most widely used language in the world (not the most widely spoken native language which I know is Mandarin) it's not going anywhere. It'll evolve yes but that'll happen with or without multiculturalism.

May I add British people never descended from one culture neither.