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Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineMulticulturalism doesn't work; never has, never will.(Original post by Beebumble)
Why is change such a bad thing?
I personally don't want to live in culture based on 'christian values' where being gay is a sin and women are property. I think religion is private matter and shouldn't be based on where you so happen to be born. The CoE is not going anywhere though and will remain the biggest religion in this country for some time. If it doesn't it'll be because of more people turning against non-organised religion in general.
Language is always evolving. The English language is already a mixture of Latin, French, German even some Indian and so many other languages. English is the most widely used language in the world (not the most widely spoken native language which I know is Mandarin) it's not going anywhere. It'll evolve yes but that'll happen with or without multiculturalism.
May I add British people never descended from one culture neither. -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineWhat is multiculturalism?(Original post by Harry Callahan)
Multiculturalism doesn't work; never has, never will. -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineYou do know you did not come from one culture.(Original post by Harry Callahan)
Multiculturalism doesn't work; never has, never will. -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineOf course, but multiculturalism in the definition I've given below doesn't work.(Original post by Beebumble)
You do know you did not come from one culture.
"the doctrine that several different cultures (rather than one national culture) can coexist peacefully and equitably in a single country"(Original post by whyumadtho)
What is multiculturalism? -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineWhat traits comprise 'British culture'?(Original post by Harry Callahan)
"the doctrine that several different cultures (rather than one national culture) can coexist peacefully and equitably in a single country"
It's an easy enough question. If 'multiculturalism'/the coexistence of 'several different cultures' is a new phenomenon, what is this apparently single 'British culture' to which 'new cultures' have been introduced?Last edited by whyumadtho; 14-06-2012 at 17:35. -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineThere isn't a British culture any more, as I've already pointed out. It's been watered down by mass immigration, political correctness and numerous other things.(Original post by whyumadtho)
What traits comprise 'British culture'?
It's an easy enough question. If 'multiculturalism'/the coexistence of 'several different cultures' is a new phenomenon, what is this apparently single 'British culture' to which 'new cultures' have been introduced? -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineWhat was it before?(Original post by Harry Callahan)
There isn't a British culture any more, as I've already pointed out. It's been watered down by mass immigration, political correctness and numerous other things. -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineIt was a place where people were actually proud to be British, with national pride. There's none of that now, mainly because there are so many immigrants that speak barely a word of the language.(Original post by whyumadtho)
What was it before? -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineWhat about the people who did not have national pride?(Original post by Harry Callahan)
It was a place where people were actually proud to be British, with national pride. There's none of that now, mainly because there are so many immigrants that speak barely a word of the language. -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkrainePractically everyone did. Don't ask me to prove it, because it's impossible.(Original post by whyumadtho)
What about the people who did not have national pride? -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineSo it's impossible to prove, yet you are making an assertion that 'practically everyone did'? On what basis are you able to make that claim?(Original post by Harry Callahan)
Practically everyone did. Don't ask me to prove it, because it's impossible.
You never actually answered my question: what about the people who did not have national pride? If British culture = possessing national pride, what culture were those who did not have national pride following? -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineEveryone had national pride then. I have no problem with immigrants, provided they contribute positively to the country, but too many of them don't, and are simply here to sponge off the state. This country is a soft touch.(Original post by whyumadtho)
So it's impossible to prove, yet you are making an assertion that 'practically everyone did'? On what basis are you able to make that claim?
You never actually answered my question: what about the people who did not have national pride? If British culture = possessing national pride, what culture were those who did not have national pride following? -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineDo you have any evidence at all to support your assertion that everyone had national pride?(Original post by Harry Callahan)
Everyone had national pride then. I have no problem with immigrants, provided they contribute positively to the country, but too many of them don't, and are simply here to sponge off the state. This country is a soft touch. -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineWhat you are saying is treason and sedition!(Original post by whyumadtho)
So it's impossible to prove, yet you are making an assertion that 'practically everyone did'? On what basis are you able to make that claim?
You never actually answered my question: what about the people who did not have national pride? If British culture = possessing national pride, what culture were those who did not have national pride following? -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineNo. But it doesn't need evidence; it's true. You get called racist nowadays for having a Union Jack in your window.(Original post by whyumadtho)
Do you have any evidence at all to support your assertion that everyone had national pride? -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineIt's not axiomatic because you say so. All British people were paedophiles in the past. It doesn't need evidence because it's true.(Original post by Harry Callahan)
No. But it doesn't need evidence; it's true. -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineEr, it was still forced into communism by the USSR for a long time.(Original post by Ivanka)
Poland wasn't part of the USSR, revise history please.
I don't know, ithe news is really frustrating me because everyone is going on about how agressive the russians and the polish were being while forgetting Britain once also had a very large problem with football related fighting carried out by hooligans.
Indeed, Polish people can be racist (I'm Polish myself) but I would prefer Poland not to become multicultural like Britain because it would cause the country to lose all of it's own traditions and culture like in Britain, not because I don't like people of other races. I just find it really sad when countries lose their own culture and traditions over time. Like I find it really sad that scandinavian countries have become christianised.
Immigration to Poland is increasing and many people are against this because they see what has happened to other countries which have 'embraced' multiculturalism. Tensions between Poland and Russia will still happen I think because of what happened in the past, but luckily their match is over now.
(sorry if it doesnt make much sense but i sort of wrote in a rush) -
Re: How would Britain be today without 'Multiculturalism'? Look at Poland-UkraineYou're deliberately being pedantic, though. I think you'll find the majority of people would agree with me, but you continue to disagree, I really don't care.(Original post by whyumadtho)
It's not axiomatic because you say so. All British people were paedophiles in the past. It doesn't need evidence because it's true.
I personally don't want to live in culture based on 'christian values' where being gay is a sin and women are property. I think religion is private matter and shouldn't be based on where you so happen to be born. The CoE is not going anywhere though and will remain the biggest religion in this country for some time. If it doesn't it'll be because of more people turning against non-organised religion in general.