Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?1- That was the sentence of the year. Let us get stuck in this age and with this economy recession.(Original post by Dandaman9999)
What? Why would I have issues over such a petty subject?
And1- I just don't think that there is any need to change society right now as it is in this manner. After all,2- with all the rising teenage pregnancies and things (getting to know about this stuff at an earlier age) it may cause more problems? But that's just my opinion. I'm just upset that all the kids are losing their 'innocence' so quickly. And also I believe that 3-we can use our teaching resources and government spending on other less trivial things and on subject education.
2- All this happens because of a lack of EDUCATION (which is the common cause of so many other problems too anyway). Young people are not being informed enough.
3- So sexuality is trivial, right? Not sure if trollin'.
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?I think our school awkwardly told us "it's normal". That really should suffice. A person's body is theirs to discover, there's not really a correct or "healthy" way (so long as you're not using sharp implements or something) that should be dictated.
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?That is the problem. Right now the level of privacy has the status of taboo. Be honest, how many teenagers that you know, friends and teachers, do you think that if asked they will admit they do it? Very few. Why? Because it is regarded as something disgusting (just as sex as whole is regarded as something disgusting in pre-contemporary societies/ages).(Original post by TheSownRose)
I'm not against educating people - I even said that we should teach what is and isn't safe, in a proper way (I remember the teacher giggling through my sex ed classes) - but you're talking about some great change in society that makes masturbation the next subject you discuss after the weather, and I think we've become too candid and casual in discussing sex.
Sex isn't dirty or unhealthy, people should be taught and aware of that. But, IMO, it should be something private between the people doing it.
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?What? I'm just stating my opinion as you said in your OP 'discuss', so why not look at the other side of the coin? Some people are not as comfortable with this (in fact, about 1/4 of my class asked to leave the room when we were 'taught' this). That's kind of what makes it trivial, so no, not trolling.(Original post by Chronist)
1- That was the sentence of the year. Let us get stuck in this age and with this economy recession.
2- All this happens because of a lack of EDUCATION (which is the common cause of so many other problems too anyway). Young people are not being informed enough.
3- So sexuality is trivial, right? Not sure if trollin'.
And what do you mean they aren't being informed enough? What will it achieve by going a further stage than what is already taught?
And what the hell has this got to do with the recession?!
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?My point is that society sees it as something disgusting and so whoever does it gets a sense of guilty every time he does it. Now compare it to alcohol. Society sees it as okay, normal, why not? Then compare benefits and issues and tell me if the current position of both things are logical.(Original post by G8D)
I think our school awkwardly told us "it's normal". That really should suffice. A person's body is theirs to discover, there's not really a correct or "healthy" way (so long as you're not using sharp implements or something) that should be dictated. -
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?It does not make it trivial, if anything, it proves that people feel awkward talking about it which proves that it is a taboo.(Original post by Dandaman9999)
What? I'm just stating my opinion as you said in your OP 'discuss', so why not look at the other side of the coin? Some people are not as comfortable with this (in fact, about 1/4 of my class asked to leave the room when we were 'taught' this). That's kind of what makes it trivial, so no, not trolling.
And what do you mean they aren't being informed enough? What will it achieve by going a further stage than what is already taught?
And what the hell has this got to do with the recession?!
By being informed I mean that they should know how to do it properly and without thinking that it is not correct. More information is needed why? Because there is a taboo underlying masturbation and in general sex! Would you oppose to young people being given more informations about risks of drugs abuse because they are informed "enough"?
lol Sorry for mocking you, btw.
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?And I agree with you that it shouldn't be regarded as disgusting. But I disagree in that I don't see why it can't be taught as something that is normal, but private.(Original post by Chronist)
That is the problem. Right now the level of privacy has the status of taboo. Be honest, how many teenagers that you know, friends and teachers, do you think that if asked they will admit they do it? Very few. Why? Because it is regarded as something disgusting (just as sex as whole is regarded as something disgusting in pre-contemporary societies/ages).
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?I disagree. Masturbation is only really disgusting to a minority (personally, I think this) of society. Perhaps the heavily religions, especially those higher up, along with old people with old-societal views.(Original post by Chronist)
My point is that society sees it as something disgusting and so whoever does it gets a sense of guilty every time he does it. Now compare it to alcohol. Society sees it as okay, normal, why not? Then compare benefits and issues and tell me if the current position of both things are logical.
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?The highlighting of it being private only reinforces the taboo. Just as a couple kissing was regarded as something private thus placing a shadow of taboo over it same happens here. It could be subtly mentioned (that is what I think should be done) to do it in private because of some people's (conservative) views but not explicitly highlighting it when it is already private AND taboo and might not help to get rid of the taboo.(Original post by TheSownRose)
And I agree with you that it shouldn't be regarded as disgusting. But I disagree in that I don't see why it can't be taught as something that is normal, but private.
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?Or maybe it's just viewed at something personal and private? It's sort of in the same sphere of ****ting and pissing. I don't want to hear about other people's pooing and weeing, not really interested in when or how they last had a **** either tbh. Also how long can a convo about ****ing last?(Original post by Chronist)
That is the problem. Right now the level of privacy has the status of taboo. Be honest, how many teenagers that you know, friends and teachers, do you think that if asked they will admit they do it? Very few. Why? Because it is regarded as something disgusting (just as sex as whole is regarded as something disgusting in pre-contemporary societies/ages).
It should be done privately but it should be talked far more openly than it currently does.
Had a **** this morning.
Mm.
In the shower.
Mm.
I think there's still semen on my left foot.
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?It is not. Your average friend/teacher will not consider normal/decent to hear/say (Accidently) that you masturbate. Now I agree that masturbation is private and people do not necessarily care about what you do with your organs when you are alone.(Original post by G8D)
I disagree. Masturbation is only really disgusting to a minority (personally, I think this) of society. Perhaps the heavily religions, especially those higher up, along with old people with old-societal views.
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?Not in my experience. Men I've met are very open and accepting of masturbation (often encouraging it) and women are slightly more reserved (as is their nature, generally) but often open/accepting of it.(Original post by Chronist)
It is not. Your average friend/teacher will not consider normal/decent to hear/say (Accidently) that you masturbate. Now I agree that masturbation is private and people do not necessarily care about what you do with your organs when you are alone.
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?I remember our school put on a video about it in about year 8. I think it would be a good thing to teach because I spent years doing it and worrying about it because I didnt think it was normal and didnt even realise others did it as well.
SECOND QUESTION: It is normal, I don't feel guility and if I was asked I would admit it but I would think its a stupid question because they could guess the answer to that. -
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?First, it is viewed as something personal and private because it is taboo (our lovely religious legacy).(Original post by plimsolls)
Or maybe it's just viewed at something personal and private? It's sort of in the same sphere of ****ting and pissing. I don't want to hear about other people's pooing and weeing, not really interested in when or how they last had a **** either tbh. Also how long can a convo about ****ing last?
Had a **** this morning.
Mm.
In the shower.
Mm.
I think there's still semen on my left foot.
Mm.
Second, you are equalling disgusting (yet natural) processes with something that is healthy and beneficial and FEELS GOOD. That says something about you and about previous generations would do the same comparation with pissing and ****ting and anything sex related.
Third, I am not saying people should talked ONLY about that or talking about it. I did never say that, I meant that people SHOULD NOT FREE GUILTY/EMBARRASED when talking about it which is very different. -
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?Do you honestly think that your average PERSON would talk about it openly? Or would they deny it?(Original post by G8D)
Not in my experience. Men I've met are very open and accepting of masturbation (often encouraging it) and women are slightly more reserved (as is their nature, generally) but often open/accepting of it.
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Re: Should schools teach healthy ways of self-pleasuring (masturbation)?It may just be me, but I don't want to be in a society where it's acceptable to sit down to a meal and be asked, "Hey, did you have fun getting yourself off last night?" Sex and masturbation are not dirty or disgusting, but they are things that are between me and my partner/hand. I also assume people wouldn't want me to discuss it either.(Original post by Chronist)
The highlighting of it being private only reinforces the taboo. Just as a couple kissing was regarded as something private thus placing a shadow of taboo over it same happens here. It could be subtly mentioned (that is what I think should be done) to do it in private because of some people's (conservative) views but not explicitly highlighting it when it is already private AND taboo and might not help to get rid of the taboo.
Something being private doesn't make it taboo. My finances are private, but it's not taboo to have a financial situation. I keep my grades private, but they're not taboo. What had made sex and masturbation taboo is the previous teaching of them as something unseemly. That needs to change, I agree. However, it does not need to become a casual conversation topic.
I often liken sex and masturbation to nose picking. It's relieving, has health benefits, everyone does it ... but you probably wouldn't want someone else's exploits detailled to you over a meal or in the street.
And now, this thread has deviated too far away from jokes about practical demonstrations and masturbation PGCEs for my liking, so I bid you adieu.
Last edited by TheSownRose; 09-06-2012 at 01:30.
