What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?
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Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?Wow, I thought everybody knew this? Haha(Original post by MissLightyear)
Wait, Prince Harry is actually called Henry?! Why is he Prince Harry then?
. I think he just prefers being called Harry, as a sort of nickname or something.
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Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?Harry is his nick name, sort of like Kate / Katherine - if Kate becomes Queen consort, she will be Queen Katherine instead of Queen Kate - if I'm not wrong(Original post by MissLightyear)
Wait, Prince Harry is actually called Henry?! Why is he Prince Harry then?
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Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?Why wouldn't he be called King Charles?(Original post by Drewski)
In the same way that Prince Charles wouldn't be called King Charles, Prince Harry is just a given name, not his 'royal' name. -
Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?Oh, so he'll be a stupid king because outlawing Nazi fancy dress is a really stupid thing to do, eh?(Original post by Isambard Kingdom Brunel)
Ya, one's Brother is in line to amalgamate succession to one's grandmother's throne.
He will make a stupid King, I remember him saying he will outlaw Nazi fancy dress.
Of all the reasons to call him stupid I think that one's a bit weak.
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Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?Apparently not(Original post by CherryCherryBoomBoom)
Wow, I thought everybody knew this? Haha
. I think he just prefers being called Harry, as a sort of nickname or something.
I feel really stupid now everyone else seems to know.
Still seems like an odd nickname, Kate from Katherine makes sense, but getting Harry from Henry is weird. Ah well learn something new every day!(Original post by thegodofgod)
Harry is his nick name, sort of like Kate / Katherine - if Kate becomes Queen consort, she will be Queen Katherine instead of Queen Kate - if I'm not wrong
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Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?King Charles's have a habit of getting their heads chopped off, so royal superstition says that they probably won't name anyone King Charles anymore. See this(Original post by Chief Wiggum)
Why wouldn't he be called King Charles? -
Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?Not when you consider that he has no power to ban it.(Original post by willbee)
Oh, so he'll be a stupid king because outlawing Nazi fancy dress is a really stupid thing to do, eh?
Of all the reasons to call him stupid I think that one's a bit weak.
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Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?he signed away his childrens right to inherit when he abdicated(Original post by Psyk)
Then it sucks to be him.
The crown would go to William, not Andrew.
I wonder what would have happened if Edward VIII (the Queen's uncle who abdicated) had children. Would they have taken precedence over the current Queen? I guess that if a king abdicates and he has children, the eldest child would get the throne. But what happens if he has children after abdicating? -
Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?No but he probably has enough influence to bring that sort of law about. It's not like it would be a major law to pass; most people would agree with it and it's already a law in many other European countries.(Original post by DaveSmith99)
Not when you consider that he has no power to ban it. -
Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?Well then the issue would be that the monarch shouldn't be using their office to influence public policy. I wouldn't really call that stupid though, just wrong.(Original post by willbee)
No but he probably has enough influence to bring that sort of law about. It's not like it would be a major law to pass; most people would agree with it and it's already a law in many other European countries. -
Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?There has been a tradition of Royals named Henry being referred to as Harry as far back as Henry V (at least the play) Cry 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!' (Henry V, Shakespeare, Act III Scene I)(Original post by MissLightyear)
Wait, Prince Harry is actually called Henry?! Why is he Prince Harry then?Last edited by chrisawhitmore; 11-06-2012 at 00:36. -
Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?It's actually been quite common throughout history for royals named Henry to go by Harry. In fact I think the name Harry started as just a nickname for Henry before becoming a name in its own right.(Original post by MissLightyear)
Apparently not
I feel really stupid now everyone else seems to know.
Still seems like an odd nickname, Kate from Katherine makes sense, but getting Harry from Henry is weird. Ah well learn something new every day! -
Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?We're talking about Charles here, not Philip(Original post by OSharp)
Ethnic minorities across the globe breathe a sigh of relief as a blow is struck for political correctness everywhere
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Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?According to the Royal Line of Succession, Charles is first in line to the throne and William is second. Eliminate (so to speak) Charles and everyone moves up one - hence, King William and the Queen Consort Catherine.(Original post by Mr Dangermouse)
Genuine curiosity,
does it go to Andrew and subsequently Beatrice?
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Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?HRH the PoW's given names are Charles Philip Arthur George, he could use any of those as his Eeginal name Arthur may be seen as presumptuous, Philip as foreign, and Charles has some unfortunate connotations , George has a long standing use as a reginal name among Kings of England / UK(Original post by Chief Wiggum)
Why wouldn't he be called King Charles?
he could be Charles III, George VII or Philip or Arthur ... he isn't obliged to use a given name as a reginal name so could be Henry IX or Edward IX if he so chose -
Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?Is it a name in its own right? The only Harry I've ever met was also a Henry. I know some dodgy characters name their children by nicknames, but I don't think it's particularly proper.(Original post by Beebumble)
It's actually been quite common throughout history for royals named Henry to go by Harry. In fact I think the name Harry started as just a nickname for Henry before becoming a name in its own right. -
Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?Harry Potter, not Henry Potter. Yes it's a real name.(Original post by L i b)
Is it a name in its own right? The only Harry I've ever met was also a Henry. I know some dodgy characters name their children by nicknames, but I don't think it's particularly proper.
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Re: What happens if Charles dies before the Queen?
I think it goes to William, as the son of the eldest. And yes, the lovely Kate would be Queen Consort.
Harry is short for Harold! Although some creative parents call their boys Harry as a name in its own right. Kinda like Jack, which was traditionally a pet name for John.Last edited by Crystalle; 11-06-2012 at 01:33. Reason: forgot to mention something
I feel really stupid now everyone else seems to know.