Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?
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Her last two albums went to number one - I don't think that's faring too badly... Not that I'm defensive of her - I'm easy going either way. I don't think she's got massive talent but she works really hard, got a break and took it & worked for what she has now post that.(Original post by Aspiringlawstudent)
Her solo career hasn't gone spectacularly well, and since she left the X-Factor it appears she's rather gone off the radar. Her singles certainly haven't fared as well, to my knowledge. .
Kate Middleton on the other hand married someone she fell in love with - who just happened to be the future king of England - and was therefore thrust into the public eye. She had no choice about it and I think it's quite easy to assume that her (and her family, if you like) are scroungers and will 'fleece the royal family for everything they have'. Highly unlikely. -
Re: Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?She may have been a commoner but she was from a wealthy background.(Original post by willbee)
Cheryl was adored until the whole move to Xfactor USA and axed thing. She went pretty rapidly from national treasure to national embarrassment and I don't think she'll recover from it.
Kate was part of a royal wedding, one of the best in recent years, dresses impeccably, seems down-to-earth and likeable, is a "commoner" who married a prince which is like a "fairytale" and is a symbol of national pride via the monarchy as well as a potential future Queen.
I don't think Cheryl has become a national embarassment. I didn't feel embarrassed for her. She really did come from humble backgrounds. I watched her on Graham Norton yesterday and she came across as very nice likeable person. Although when she tried to be all like 'yeah girlfriend!' (to Katy Perry) it did come across as a bit cringey and a little forced but on the whole I think she is a nice person. Her singing abilities are poor but she's a good dancer (she won a scholarship to do Royal Ballet when she was younger) And to be honest she is still rather stylish albeit maybe not as impecable as Catherine. In my opinion all though I think Catherine is a very classy lady, I still think Cheryl is more beautiful. -
Re: Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?Kate/Catherine did not come from a normal background, her family are very wealthy. And when she wears all these expensive dresses and does charity work here and there, I think Cheryl has worked harder to get to where she is in life. She came from a working class background and has done bloody well for herself.(Original post by 08rbut)
The Duchess of Cambridge seems more genuine, and in a way less like a normal Duchess, as she still has her 'normal, commoner' roots, and keeps that, passing it on to the Duke I think, which will help the royal family connect with the public even further than it does now. And also, as much as Kate does not have to work, she uses that time to spend with charities, which must benefit them a lot.
I have always not like Cheryl (she doesn't use Cole anymore apparently), and recently she has actually come up to be quite rude. I think it was in a DM article, I read I think it was on the Graham Norton Show she was asked if she had kissed Simon Cowell, and she said something like, 'I can tell you what he can kiss '. Was there any need for that? I am by no means a Simon fan, by the way. Also, i seem to notice, she has made a few enemies she only a few months to years ago she would have been fine with.
I actually think Cheryl connects with the public more for this reason.
Its true she said that about Simon but she meant it in a jokey way. Trust the Daily Mail to take it out of context lol. She has a right to be annoyed with him but she is still speaking to him. -
Re: Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?Agreed. Not a fan of either(Original post by Somethingundecided)
I don't like either of them -
Re: Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?That was Cheryl's most famous outfit?(Original post by willbee)
Well if you see my above post you'll see their most famous outfits compared.
Most people were critical of Cheryl's outfit and said she had bad taste.
The only criticisms of Kate's dress were the Madonna-esque boobs and the fact that Pippa sort of outshone her.
There have been plenty of times she's been in the papers for wearing glamorous outfits. I personally didn't like it but she her dress at Cannes was seen showered with positive comments.
And you really can't compare her to Kate in a wedding dress. I'm sure Cheryl would look absolutely stunning in one just like most girls do in their wedding outfit! -
Re: Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3207822.stm(Original post by Miracle Day)
I admire Cheryl. She's been through quite alot in a short period (malaria/being cheated on/Simon Cowell) and she seems like a really nice personality contrasting with the bitchy sluts of Geordie Shore. -
Re: Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?She was a commoner in the sense that she wasn't born into nobility or landed gentry.(Original post by rmpr97)
Kate Middleton has never been a 'commoner'. She was part of the upper-middle class. A commoner isn't someone with a £30m business.
Kate got her fame and fortune (she had the fortune already though) by meeting the future king at uni and somehow she's this amazing role model who's worked really hard to go to the Bahamas's in a £5k dress and wave.Last edited by TurboCretin; 11-06-2012 at 08:57. -
Re: Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?What you admire an average singer who got lucky and had some irritating manufactured hits with Girls Aloud and then got even luckier being picked to judge other peoples talent with precious little talent herself apart from looking good in clothes.(Original post by Miracle Day)
I admire Cheryl. She's been through quite alot in a short period (malaria/being cheated on/Simon Cowell) and she seems like a really nice personality contrasting with the bitchy sluts of Geordie Shore.
So she makes the wrong choices in her men,so do a lot of women,who don't get paid thousands by newspapers to reveal their "heartache and anguish" publicly.
She would turn up at the opening of an envelope,if it would save her so called career,still it has been a an incredible "journey" and she "inhabited" the stage and made the song her "own" and "milked the tears" -
Re: Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?
Maybe because she was convicted of assault?
Although her album will still reach No. 1 and she still has many fans so she does divide opinion.
I must say that I am most certainly not a fan of Kate - all girls should follow her example and marry a prince, yes? NO.
And she has lost a lot of weight and unless you are naturally that small - very unlikely - her frame is not a good thing to aim for. -
Re: Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?
Speaking from an omniscient view point (this is by no means my own) I think maybe a lot of people love Kate because she seems genuinely nice. Cheryl, on the other hand, has had previous racist allergations (apparently a few years ago she attacked a black girl in a bathroom of a nightclub), and she's not as 'open' as Kate - she seems a lot more shy - probably because everything that's gone on in her life for the last few years, which was obviously really tough. Generally speaking, people tend to misjudge shyness for rudeness/aloofness. We don't really know anything about Kate's private life which makes her look like a saint. I know lots of people despise Kate Middleton though - everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Also Cheryl gets a lot of criticism because apparently she doesn't sing live. Obviously she can sing, because she was on Pop Idol originally, but lots of people disapprove of her taking the 'easy option'.
I don't know, this is just my theory. -
Re: Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?If you aren't a member of the nobility or the priesthood then you are by definition a commoner.(Original post by rmpr97)
Kate Middleton has never been a 'commoner'. She was part of the upper-middle class. A commoner isn't someone with a £30m business.
Kate got her fame and fortune (she had the fortune already though) by meeting the future king at uni and somehow she's this amazing role model who's worked really hard to go to the Bahamas's in a £5k dress and wave. -
Re: Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?
The thing that annoys me about Cheryl cole is that she thinks she can sing. The other day defended herself saying she wasn't miming on the voice and that she should be 'flattered' that people thought see was. Look at her performance on the Jubilee, just awful, your live voice cannot transform that much in the space of a week, its hardly going to get worse either... She's fooling no one. She's vastly untalented, and doesn't seem to realise that without her looks she'd be nowhere.
Kate Middleton is just a good looking women that just happened to marry the prince - just a normal person and she's done good things since the marriage, what has she done to make us loathe her? Its not her fault the media follows her around.Last edited by charlie9872; 11-06-2012 at 10:47. -
Re: Why is Kate Middleton adored yet Cheryl Cole is loathed?A very privileged 'commoner' might you note. It's not like she grew up round the estates of Toxteth. Her family are quite well off.(Original post by willbee)
Cheryl was adored until the whole move to Xfactor USA and axed thing. She went pretty rapidly from national treasure to national embarrassment and I don't think she'll recover from it.
Kate was part of a royal wedding, one of the best in recent years, dresses impeccably, seems down-to-earth and likeable, is a "commoner" who married a prince which is like a "fairytale" and is a symbol of national pride via the monarchy as well as a potential future Queen.