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  1. brightbulb's Avatar
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
    (Original post by SubAtomic)
    If you are 20 then why did your teacher put you in for the higher tier?
    What's his age got to do with whether he does higher or foundation?
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
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    It's because she knows what's best for the students; she does it every year, and it works. My school doesn't league table chase; nobody in that class is going to get a B or higher. In her opinion, this is the better way forward.

    Why walk into another foundation exam and get another D, after getting a D for 2 years? The foundation papers obviously don't work for some students.
    These students should never have been taking exams early in the first place.

    If you are genuinely interested, research evidence from the Dept for Education on the harm caused by this sort of policy is available here:

    https://www.education.gov.uk/publica.../DFE-RR208.pdf

    The Secretary of State wrote to Ofsted in March asking them to put a stop to this.
  3. Flyteryder's Avatar
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
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    These students should never have been taking exams early in the first place.

    If you are genuinely interested, research evidence from the Dept for Education on the harm caused by this sort of policy is available here:

    https://www.education.gov.uk/publica.../DFE-RR208.pdf

    The Secretary of State wrote to Ofsted in March asking them to put a stop to this.
    The exams were not taken 'early', they were on the foundation modular course over the last 2 years, now they are doing higher linear.

    If you have a different teaching style, then fair enough. This is how it works at my school. Any students who do not get a C at modular foundation over the 2 years do higher linear at the end of year 11, and at my school, everyone who does this (about 20 students every year), gets a C.
    Last edited by Flyteryder; 12-06-2012 at 16:03.
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
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    What's his age got to do with whether he does higher or foundation?
    Well while it was a bit too much of an assumption to be sure of this - if a 20 year old is doing GCSE maths it's usually because they didn't pass when they took in school (may need it for a PGCE or whatever). Obviously this is not always true so it was a bit of a rash assumption.
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
    (Original post by Flyteryder)
    The exams were not taken 'early', they were on the foundation modular course over the last 2 years, now they are doing higher linear.

    If you have a different teaching style, then fair enough. This is how it works at my school. Any students who do not get a C at modular foundation over the 2 years do higher linear at the end of year 11, and at my school, everyone who does this (about 20 students every year), gets a C.
    Well your school won't be doing it any more. Modular assessment has been abolished by the Government.
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
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    Oh my days, are we on a different planet? The OP is at college. Different system. No 2 year GCSE. Done in one year at night school or during day at COLLEGE. It is at the teachers discretion whether a pupil gets signed up for higher or not!

    Peace and love :flower2:
    At 20 years old at college, you would be paying for your exams; therefore it is your decision whether to take higher or foundation, not the teacher's. It is your money and your exam entry.
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
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    A teacher will not sign you up to fail.
    At 20 years old and at college, it has nothing to do with the teacher. You are well within your right to enter yourself for higher if you feel like that is the best decision. It is your money and your exam entry; you don't even have to ask the teacher their permission, you just go the exams officer and do it.

    No teacher is going to tell a 20 year old adult they're not allowed to do something, simply because they can't intervene in that adult's decision.
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
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    It has nothing to do with the teacher. You are well within your right to enter yourself for higher if you feel like that is the best decision. It is your money and your exam entry; you don't even have to ask the teacher their permission.
    Who knows your ability better than the person teaching you? It has everything to do with the teacher. Would look like the teacher did a bad job if they let everyone do which paper they felt suited them and they all failed.

    Wouldn't be much repeat business going the colleges way if they were seen to be getting poor results.
    Last edited by SubAtomic; 12-06-2012 at 16:25.
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
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    Who knows your ability better than the person teaching you? It has everything to do with the teacher. Would look like the teacher did a bad job if they let everyone do which paper they felt suited them and they all failed.

    Wouldn't be much repeat business going the colleges way if they were seen to be getting poor results.
    As I said before, it has nothing to do with the teacher knowing somebody's ability. Legally, you are an adult, and can enter yourself for any exam you like. If you are under 18, you need a parent or guardian to sign a resit form in order to to resit a GCSE or A-level, as you are still a child. As a 20 year old adult, you can legally enter yourself for any exam you like, even if the teacher disagrees with your decision.

    If somebody like the OP feels they would have a better chance of getting a C grade on higher than foundation, then that if their choice. Obviously, not a lot of people go against the advice of their teacher, but many do and come out successful.

    I was told by my A-level Geography teacher I would fail the subject and that I should drop it, as I never got above a low D in the school assessments at AS, which I mostly got E's and U's in. In the real thing, I beat everybody in my class and two surrounding schools. The teacher is not always right.
    Last edited by Flyteryder; 12-06-2012 at 16:31.
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    No. You are missing the point. We were asking you WHAT HIS AGE HAS TO DO WITH WHAT PAPER HE TAKES!!!!! Not whether he does it at school or college or whatever. *BASHES HEAD AGAINST BRICK WALL*
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
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    No. You are missing the point. We were asking you WHAT HIS AGE HAS TO DO WITH WHAT PAPER HE TAKES!!!!! Not whether he does it at school or college or whatever. *BASHES HEAD AGAINST BRICK WALL*
    \mathrm{age} \implies \mathrm{college} \implies \mathrm{teacher\ discretion} \implies \mathrm{foundation\ or\ higher} :banghead:
    Last edited by SubAtomic; 13-06-2012 at 16:06.
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    YES, and the teacher has obviously decided that he is capable of doing a higher paper thus signing him up for it.
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    I am fully aware of what you said, thank you. I still don't understand what age has to do with what paper he takes. You don't know his situation so you can't comment on the choice his teacher made for him.

    I think you are obviously must be lacking in social skills as you don't seem to be listening to the point people are making. It is pointless trying to talk with you as you cannot see it from another's point of view, only yours. You have not listened to anything anyone has said and this thread has descended into a big circle of piss.
    Good day to you.
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
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    I am fully aware of what you said, thank you. I still don't understand what age has to do with what paper he takes. You don't know his situation so you can't comment on the choice his teacher made for him.

    I think you are obviously must be lacking in social skills as you don't seem to be listening to the point people are making. It is pointless trying to talk with you as you cannot see it from another's point of view, only yours. You have not listened to anything anyone has said and this thread has descended into a big circle of piss.
    Good day to you.
    You are lacking in reading skills. Are social skills identifiable from online chat?:emo:

    Don't really get what point you are making:confused:.

    The OP is not at school. They are at college:eek:

    Reword the bit that has caused outrage amongst, well, two people.:mob:

    If you are at college then why would your teacher put you in for the higher paper if they thought you couldn't do it?:borat:

    Happy now?:console:
    Last edited by SubAtomic; 13-06-2012 at 16:03.
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
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    You are lacking in reading skills. Are social skills identifiable from online chat?:emo:

    Don't really get what point you are making:confused:.

    The OP is not at school. They are at college:eek:

    Reword the bit that has caused outrage amongst, well, two people.:mob:

    If you are at college then why did your teacher put you in for the higher paper if they thought you couldn't do it?:borat:

    Happy now?:console:
    Where did he say that his teachers didn't think he could do it?
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
    Firstly, I am not lacking reading skills.
    Secondly, I am aware they attend college.

    He never said his teacher thought "he couldn't do it" This thread was just the OP's personal opinion on how he thought the exam went. Often people tend to think they have done a lot worse then they actually have.

    I think maybe someone is reading bits that aren't there.
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
    Does anyone have Edexcel maths 13 June 2012 unofficial mark scheme?

    plz if u do share!!!

    thanks in advance!
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
    Google it..
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
    (Original post by dina12)
    Does anyone have Edexcel maths 13 June 2012 unofficial mark scheme?

    plz if u do share!!!

    thanks in advance!
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    Re: Just done the first test of my GCSE maths
    (Original post by lilyflower16)
    Firstly, I am not lacking reading skills.
    Secondly, I am aware they attend college.

    He never said his teacher thought "he couldn't do it" This thread was just the OP's personal opinion on how he thought the exam went. Often people tend to think they have done a lot worse then they actually have.

    I think maybe someone is reading bits that aren't there.
    I'd give it up if I were you... I think some people invent things they think they've seen and then comment on them as if they were really there in the first place
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