[rhysowen]

So, Hey guys... What about deism?
I'm just interested to find out what people's attitudes are towards deism?
I was brought up my whole life in the UK education system with Christian ideas posed to me at every school assembly and classroom lesson.
It's not until now with a bit of free thinking (being out of education) that I'm starting to realise that I think I'm deist?

I believe that there is a force/power/being that put this idea of life together.
But I do not believe that all the stories in the bible (that I was taught are true) are true?
More moral lessons towards a more... controlled society..

I'm a guy of science? I used to spend my nights in bed reading "My First Encyclopedia" books.
I took all sciences at A-Level.
I'm almost a medic in the RAF.
And I believe it all. I can't argue with dinosaur fossils being dug up?
But that doesn't mean I don't believe that there is something else behind it all?

[JCC-MGS]

What opinions are there to have on deism? It's not really an ideology, it's just a statement of belief on an unanswerable question where no answer is any more logical than the other

[janet9]

I used to think of myself as a deist, thinking that God set of the Big Bang then abandoned our universe to just let it be.

But then I snapped out of it and remind myself that the G-man isn't real.

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[Balfour999]

You can be a 'science guy' and believe in god still. Dinosaurs do not disprove the existence of any god, especially not the Christian god. I'm also sure there are many Christians, Muslims, jews and all sorts taking all 3 sciences at A level.

Also, if you are willing to believe that there is a force that created life and the universe then Believing in any sort of religious story of miracle isn't exactly hard to do. Surely turning water into wine, walking on water or rising from the dead are fairly menial compared to creating EVERYTHING.


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[victormeldrew]

(Original post by rhysowen)
So, Hey guys... What about deism?
I'm just interested to find out what people's attitudes are towards deism?
I was brought up my whole life in the UK education system with Christian ideas posed to me at every school assembly and classroom lesson.
It's not until now with a bit of free thinking (being out of education) that I'm starting to realise that I think I'm deist?

I believe that there is a force/power/being that put this idea of life together.
But I do not believe that all the stories in the bible (that I was taught are true) are true?
More moral lessons towards a more... controlled society..

I'm a guy of science? I used to spend my nights in bed reading "My First Encyclopedia" books.
I took all sciences at A-Level.
I'm almost a medic in the RAF.
And I believe it all. I can't argue with dinosaur fossils being dug up?
But that doesn't mean I don't believe that there is something else behind it all?

Deism is rightly called the argument from ignorance.

Science can't tell us what, if anything, made the Universe. Time and space don't mean anything close to the Big Bang, before the Planck Time. The very idea of 'before' in this context is meaningless.

But wow, doesn't the Universe look amazing? Stands to reason, an intelligent being must have made it! Wrong. Humans have evolved to look for causes in their limited, specialised environment, and also have an emotional need to believe that something must be in charge of everything. Wanting something to be true doesn't mean it is true.

And be careful what you wish for. Why would you hope there is a Creator who has made pain and disease? Maybe not so amazing after all.

The Creator of your Universe has wrestled with these problems. The Creator has posted a video on YouTube. The message comes to you directly, without the need for translation, transcription or interpretation by iron-age scribes, or analysis by a quantum physicist.

The video tells you how you came to be here, outlines the meaning and purpose of your life, and gives you an insight into the future of humankind.

See ' God says sorry ' by lacontrabasse.

[willbee]

Wow, some of the responses on here are moronic. I have nothing to contribute except my shock. I can see why atheists would get so angry at a religious person who seeks to harm others with their righteousness, but the righteousness of atheists on this thread is repulsive.

I think Deism is a belief or an idea which is perfectly acceptable to hold, seeing as it cannot be proven wrong or right and of all the beliefs to have I would call it pretty logical, even if logic cannot really be applied.

[Steevee]

I was a bit of a Deist for a time.

But I then decided that though there may be something greater than us, whether that is a God and whether they actually exist are total unknowns, so the logical position is disbelief until some sort of evidence is given.

That said I have no problem with Deists, if that's what you want to believe

[amime]

(Original post by willbee)
I think Deism is a belief or an idea which is perfectly acceptable to hold, seeing as it cannot be proven wrong or right and of all the beliefs to have I would call it pretty logical, even if logic cannot really be applied.

But there is no evidence for a god, be that a religious or irreligious god. So surely the most logical position would be to hold back on any belief regarding its existing.

Simply put... none belief/disbelief (Agnostic atheism) in a deity is the only logical position to take atm

[willbee]

(Original post by amime)
But there is no evidence for a god, be that a religious or irreligious god. So surely the most logical position would be to hold back on any belief regarding its existing.

Simply put... none belief/disbelief (Agnostic atheism) in a deity is the only logical position to take atm

Do you not think there is an element of logic if you look at the universe and think it couldn't be all down to chance?

I didn't say it was the most logical decision but I did say it was "pretty logical".

According to google logic is:

Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity: "experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic".
A particular system or codification of the principles of proof and inference: "Aristotelian logic".

Considering that we can experience the world and it's complexity, surely it is rational to assume that some "higher power" helped it all happen?

[amime]

(Original post by willbee)
Do you not think there is an element of logic if you look at the universe and think it couldn't be all down to chance?

I didn't say it was the most logical decision but I did say it was "pretty logical".

According to google logic is:

Reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity: "experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic".
A particular system or codification of the principles of proof and inference: "Aristotelian logic".

Considering that we can experience the world and it's complexity, surely it is rational to assume that some "higher power" helped it all happen?

I guess, but as we have no evidence for a 'higher power' it's best to simply say:

"I don't know what cause started the universe and thus I'm going to reserve judgement and not believe unless evidence for such entity/power/cause shows up"

[rhysowen]

Yea I know, I get it. I get what you're all saying.
I'm not here to try and decide whether my choice to be a deist is "right or wrong", I'm simply here to find out how deists are regarded against other religions.
I can't answer all the questions and aruments people propose to disprove/disassociate any deity, but not scientist can answer all the questions and argument of our universe.
For me, a peson who wants to know "everything", a deity plugs the gaps.
Which may be completely idiotic to many. But not being satisfied until I get an answer to all the questions inside my head was too much not to fathom such an ideology.

[py0alb]

(Original post by JCC-MGS)
What opinions are there to have on deism? It's not really an ideology, it's just a statement of belief on an unanswerable question where no answer is any more logical than the other

Well thats not strictly true, there is one logical answer to an unanswerable problem and one alone.