Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?Yeah, because that child will be locked in it's house with nobody but it's parents who both have gender roles that are 100% lined up with their sex. If that's the case they have more to worry about than the fact they have same-sex parents.(Original post by TheKingoftheJews)
Not him but aren't people meant to have a father figure and a mother figure? If both parents are the same gender, couldn't it be hard to figure out for a baby?
Outside influences will expose the child to people of the opposite sex to their parents.
And gender roles are not dependent on sex. You can have a man showing 'traditionally female' gender roles and women showing 'traditionally male' gender roles. -
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?I know about outside roles, I was just curious as to whether its possible for a child to differentiate between the two people of the same gender and pick one as a mother and the other as a father.(Original post by minimarshmallow)
Yeah, because that child will be locked in it's house with nobody but it's parents who both have gender roles that are 100% lined up with their sex. If that's the case they have more to worry about than the fact they have same-sex parents.
Outside influences will expose the child to people of the opposite sex to their parents.
And gender roles are not dependent on sex. You can have a man showing 'traditionally female' gender roles and women showing 'traditionally male' gender roles.
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?They don't have to pick a 'father' and a 'mother'.(Original post by TheKingoftheJews)
I know about outside roles, I was just curious as to whether its possible for a child to differentiate between the two people of the same gender and pick one as a mother and the other as a father.
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?But I thought if a child for example had 2 mums and no clear father role of the two they would grow up with some social ills(Original post by minimarshmallow)
They don't have to pick a 'father' and a 'mother'.
Also, that image isn't working (at least for me).
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?Two daddies or two mummies doesn't make sense, it isn't what you want as a kid. I feel really sorry for kids brought up like that and the government ought to ban it, they only allow it because they are scared of the gay vote.
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?If a child lacks a male role model because they have two female parents and no exposure to any males at all they may have some problems, particularly if it's a male child. Doesn't mean they pick a 'dad' out of the two women, they still have two 'mums'. They just get their male role models from grandfathers, uncles, male cousins, male family friends etc.(Original post by TheKingoftheJews)
But I thought if a child for example had 2 mums and no clear father role of the two they would grow up with some social ills
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?If they have them, sometimes they don't and sometimes they don't let them in even when they do, because they don't want disturbance to their sick little Gay/Lesbi heaven.(Original post by minimarshmallow)
If a child lacks a male role model because they have two female parents and no exposure to any males at all they may have some problems, particularly if it's a male child. Doesn't mean they pick a 'dad' out of the two women, they still have two 'mums'. They just get their male role models from grandfathers, uncles, male cousins, male family friends etc. -
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?Well it isn't what you want, because it's not what you were brought up with. But as a choice between growing up in care or growing up with gay parents, I'd pick gay parents. Growing up with druggie parents or gay parents, I'd pick gay parents. Growing up with straight parents who had me by accident and gay parents, probably the gay parents and they'd had to fight tooth and nail and spend money to have me. Growing up in a loving straight family or a loving gay family, well I'd be happy with whichever one I got there.(Original post by HariboMunch)
Two daddies or two mummies doesn't make sense, it isn't what you want as a kid. I feel really sorry for kids brought up like that and the government ought to ban it, they only allow it because they are scared of the gay vote.
And why do you feel sorry for them? Research shows they'll turn out fine with gay parents. And the government aren't banning it because of that research that says there's no problem with it. -
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?Are you kidding me?(Original post by HariboMunch)
If they have them, sometimes they don't and sometimes they don't let them in even when they do, because they don't want disturbance to their sick little Gay/Lesbi heaven. -
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?Are you lesbian?(Original post by minimarshmallow)
Well it isn't what you want, because it's not what you were brought up with. But as a choice between growing up in care or growing up with gay parents, I'd pick gay parents. Growing up with druggie parents or gay parents, I'd pick gay parents. Growing up with straight parents who had me by accident and gay parents, probably the gay parents and they'd had to fight tooth and nail and spend money to have me. Growing up in a loving straight family or a loving gay family, well I'd be happy with whichever one I got there.
And why do you feel sorry for them? Research shows they'll turn out fine with gay parents. And the government aren't banning it because of that research that says there's no problem with it. -
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?No, I'm not. Not that it's at all relevant.(Original post by HariboMunch)
Are you lesbian?
Well done on completely ignoring all of my points and going straight for my sexual orientation though. Good argumentation. -
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?Yeah, if you're comparing druggies with well-off good, caring gay parents, I suppose you have a point, but that's not the choice usually, like social services don't take kids of druggies and give them to gays. They usually make a baby with a friend's help or something like that. It's a bit sick really. Imagine being that poor kid, it's awful. If it was me I would hate their guts and when I hit 16 get the hell out to try and mix with people who aren't so twisted up.(Original post by minimarshmallow)
No, I'm not. Not that it's at all relevant.
Well done on completely ignoring all of my points and going straight for my sexual orientation though. Good argumentation. -
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?Did you just stop reading my post when you saw the word 'druggie' there or did you continue reading and then just ignore the part where I pointed out that research says they're not any worse off than kids of straight parents?(Original post by HariboMunch)
Yeah, if you're comparing druggies with well-off good, caring gay parents, I suppose you have a point, but that's not the choice usually, like social services don't take kids of druggies and give them to gays. They usually make a baby with a friend's help or something like that. It's a bit sick really. Imagine being that poor kid, it's awful. If it was me I would hate their guts and when I hit 16 get the hell out to try and mix with people who aren't so twisted up.
Maybe if you'd been raised by gay parents you'd be less intolerant.Last edited by minimarshmallow; 17-06-2012 at 15:50. -
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?Looks like most people agree with them agree with them on the issue.(Original post by Spaz Man)
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?Why should sex or orientation of a kid's parents matter at all? As long as the kids are loved and well cared-for, nothing else should ever matter.
There are old parents, young parents, druggie parents, smoker parents, abusive parents, homicidal parents out there that dont get anywhere near as much criticism in the way they raise their children as homosexual parents do. It's so wrong. Some of the gay people I know are in the most stable and loving relationships I've ever encountered, and could provide such a wonderful loving life for a child, but people tell them they shouldnt because they just happen to be in love with someone of the same gender. It's just not right. -
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?Healthy people find it either silly or sick, or both.(Original post by PinkyQT)
I wouldn't want two dad's or two mum's. Most people wouldn't as well. -
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?The majority of people don't care about the issue and when asked normally split 50/50.(Original post by heyhey922)
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?If I took you away from your parents now you wouldn't like it, but if you didn't have any parents or you had abusive parents I'm sure you'd prefer it. And if you'd been raised from birth by them you'd probably not care - mostly because you wouldn't know any different.(Original post by PinkyQT)
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Re: Do children really need one mother and one father (not gay parents)?I'm healthy, I think it's fine. So do the scientists, which you've been told but you manage to conveniently ignore those posts.(Original post by HariboMunch)
Healthy people find it either silly or sick, or both.Last edited by minimarshmallow; 17-06-2012 at 17:12. Reason: Massive spellcheck error.
