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  1. hines's Avatar
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    Classical Greek Language B401 OCR 14/6
    Some of these may be wrong as we disputed about them after the exam:

    1 Her husband, Sychaeus, was killed
    2 That she would never love another man
    3 From/by the sea
    4 τυχή(ι)
    5 μετα πολλων αλλων ναυτων
    6 They were destroyed by the wind and sea
    7 ευθυς
    8 To provide food and wine
    9 Who they were (maybe)
    Where they came from
    10 Fighting the Greeks
    11 The city was set on fire
    12 To find a new homeland
    13 She was always chasing them and causing bad things to happen to them

    Translation:
    When she heard these things, Dido admired Aeneas and perceived him to be the bravest (man). On the one hand, during the day, Dido often asked him to tell the story again, and on the other hand, at night, during her sleep, Dido seemed to see him and hear his voice; so that soon she loved Aeneas the most, and forgot about the man(?) Sychaeus. And at last Aeneas himself (?) decided to remain in Lybia and establish a new homeland there for the Trojans.

    15 He was angry
    16 Not to establish a homeland in Lybia, but in Italy
    17 To force Aeneas to leave at once, having prepared his ships
    18 Because he had seen Hermes
    19 He was afraid to such an extent that he wanted to flee as soon as possible
    20 Because Dido would be distressed
    What it was necessary to do
    21 πολυν χρονον
    22 Option C: she was strict first with terrible anger and then grief
    23 That she wasn't faithful
    24 She had betrayed her husband and was now heartbroken
    25 Hypnosis: sleep therapy
    Nautical: to do with sailing


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    Last edited by hines; 17-06-2012 at 10:32.
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    Re: Classical Greek Language B401 OCR 14/6
    thank you :d
    just one thing, I think you missed out upnos from the translation, so it's:
    'Dido seemed to see him and hear his voice in [her] sleep'
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    (Original post by NomNomNom :))
    thank you :d
    just one thing, I think you missed out upnos from the translation, so it's:
    'Dido seemed to see him and hear his voice in [her] sleep'
    I did! Thanks for that, just changed it


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    (Original post by hines)
    I did! Thanks for that, just changed it


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    ahahah we seem to be the only ones doing greek..where is everyone???
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    (Original post by NomNomNom :))
    ahahah we seem to be the only ones doing greek..where is everyone???
    No idea haha


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    Re: Classical Greek Language B401 OCR 14/6
    That seems extremely accurate to me.

    2 points to make, though (more additions to your unofficial mark scheme than corrections):

    Q17: To force Aeneas to prepare his ships at once to go away from Libya [you probably just forgot this bit when you wrote it up]

    Q18: He was afraid because he had seen the god (Hermes).

    I think I got at least 57/60, though I can't see any mistakes, so maybe higher. But my Sources paper was terrible, so ...
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    Re: Classical Greek Language B401 OCR 14/6
    I also did it...

    I agree with all of your mark scheme...

    I am just not certain about a bit of the translation... But I can't remember exactly what I wrote so I can't give my opinion... :-P

    I thought Aneas was afraid by the the God appearing...?
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    (Original post by Big-Daddy)
    That seems extremely accurate to me.

    2 points to make, though (more additions to your unofficial mark scheme than corrections):

    Q17: To force Aeneas to prepare his ships at once to go away from Libya [you probably just forgot this bit when you wrote it up]

    Q18: He was afraid because he had seen the god (Hermes).

    I think I got at least 57/60, though I can't see any mistakes, so maybe higher. But my Sources paper was terrible, so ...
    Yah probably thanks


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    Re: Classical Greek Language B401 OCR 14/6
    Do we think the history paper will be as bad as the Latin people said their history paper was?
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    Ah that's so annoying i defo got 18 wrong i said because he noticed Hermes, stupid mistake really! Apart from that i'm pretty sure 'Dido would be distressed' was part of answer to 19 and the answer to 20 was 'he pondered what it was necessary to do', any thoughts?
    Last edited by Hazbo; 14-06-2012 at 23:12.
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    (Original post by Hazbo)
    Ah that's so annoying i defo got 18 wrong i said because he noticed Hermes, stupid mistake really! Apart from that i'm pretty sure 'Dido would be distressed' was part of answer to 19 and the answer to 20 was 'he pondered what it was necessary to do', any thoughts?
    Well I wrote the answers done quickly at the end of the exam but I definitely missed that bit out (just added it in).


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    (Original post by hines)
    Well I wrote the answers done quickly at the end of the exam but I definitely missed that bit out (just added it in).


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    ahh okay just had a minor stress moment
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    Thought this was a decent exam, how different is the next language paper? Much harder? I've only been doing greek for 2 years, taking it at the same time as a-levels
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    (Original post by gibbins)
    Thought this was a decent exam, how different is the next language paper? Much harder? I've only been doing greek for 2 years, taking it at the same time as a-levels
    I only did short course so not sure guess it'll be more difficult though


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    Re: Classical Greek Language B401 OCR 14/6
    I put a couple of things differently:

    11 The city was set on fire
    "The city was set alight"

    13 She was always chasing them and causing bad things to happen to them
    "She always chases them and provides bad things for them"

    Translation:
    When she heard these things, Dido admired Aeneas and perceived him to be the bravest (man).
    "...Dido was amazed at Aeneas and noticed that he was very brave"
    On the one hand, during the day, Dido often asked him to tell the story again, and on the other hand, at night, during her sleep, Dido seemed to see him and hear his voice;
    "...Dido appeared to see him in her sleep and hear his voice"
    so that soon she lovesick Aeneas the most, and forgot about the man(?) Sychaeus.
    "with the result that she loved Aeneas, having forgotten her husband Sychaeus"
    And at last Aeneas himself decided to remain in Lybia and establish a new homeland there for the Trojans.
    Damn, I thought Dido was the subject "And finally Dido decided to remain with him in Lybia..."

    15 He was angry
    "He got angry"

    17 To force Aeneas to leave at once, having prepared the ships.
    "To force Aeneas to prepare his ship immediately and go away"

    18 Because he had seen Hermes
    "Because the god appeared to him"

    24 She had betrayed her husband and was now heartbroken
    "She loved Aeneas and didn't want to live without him"
    Last edited by Wazza999; 15-06-2012 at 21:41.
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    (Original post by Wazza999)
    I put a couple of things differently:

    11 The city was set on fire
    "The city was set alight"

    13 She was always chasing them and causing bad things to happen to them
    "She always chases them and provides bad things for them"

    Translation:
    When she heard these things, Dido admired Aeneas and perceived him to be the bravest (man).
    "...Dido was amazed at Aeneas and noticed that he was very brave"
    On the one hand, during the day, Dido often asked him to tell the story again, and on the other hand, at night, during her sleep, Dido seemed to see him and hear his voice;
    "...Dido appeared to see him in her sleep and hear his voice"
    so that soon she lovesick Aeneas the most, and forgot about the man(?) Sychaeus.
    "with the result that she loved Aeneas, having forgotten her husband Sychaeus"
    And at last Aeneas himself decided to remain in Lybia and establish a new homeland there for the Trojans.
    Damn, I thought Dido was the subject "And finally Dido decided to remain with him in Lybia..."

    15 He was angry
    "He got angry"

    17 To force Aeneas to leave at once, having prepared the ships.
    "To force Aeneas to prepare his ship immediately and go away"

    18 Because he had seen Hermes
    "Because the god appeared to him"

    24 She had betrayed her husband and was now heartbroken
    "She loved Aeneas and didn't want to live without him"
    11 That's the same thing you'd still get the mark

    13 Don't think they'd care about tenses so you'd still get the marks

    Apart from that last bit in the translation, that's still all right

    All fine, you probably would also get mark for 24 but I wonder if you had to mention just Sychaeus or just one reason, as it was only 1 mark.


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    Re: Classical Greek Language B401 OCR 14/6
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    11 That's the same thing you'd still get the mark

    13 Don't think they'd care about tenses so you'd still get the marks

    Apart from that last bit in the translation, that's still all right

    All fine, you probably would also get mark for 24 but I wonder if you had to mention just Sychaeus or just one reason, as it was only 1 mark.


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    For a paper 1 that was bloody hard!
    Given how paper 2 is the harder of the two, I am so worried.

    With the last bit of the translation, even though it was wrong, it was still grammatically correct I believe so there may be grounds to appeal.

    Thanks for the help!
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    (Original post by Wazza999)
    I put a couple of things differently:

    11 The city was set on fire
    "The city was set alight"

    13 She was always chasing them and causing bad things to happen to them
    "She always chases them and provides bad things for them"

    Translation:
    When she heard these things, Dido admired Aeneas and perceived him to be the bravest (man).
    "...Dido was amazed at Aeneas and noticed that he was very brave"
    On the one hand, during the day, Dido often asked him to tell the story again, and on the other hand, at night, during her sleep, Dido seemed to see him and hear his voice;
    "...Dido appeared to see him in her sleep and hear his voice"
    so that soon she lovesick Aeneas the most, and forgot about the man(?) Sychaeus.
    "with the result that she loved Aeneas, having forgotten her husband Sychaeus"
    And at last Aeneas himself decided to remain in Lybia and establish a new homeland there for the Trojans.
    Damn, I thought Dido was the subject "And finally Dido decided to remain with him in Lybia..."

    15 He was angry
    "He got angry"

    17 To force Aeneas to leave at once, having prepared the ships.
    "To force Aeneas to prepare his ship immediately and go away"

    18 Because he had seen Hermes
    "Because the god appeared to him"

    24 She had betrayed her husband and was now heartbroken
    "She loved Aeneas and didn't want to live without him"
    For the translation, your meaning is wrong but grammatically seems to be right ... I put something similar ("it seemed right to Dido for Aeneas to stay in Libya and establish a new homeland there for the Trojans"). I'm still not entirely sure mine's wrong, since it makes sense as well.

    Your answer for 24 might not get the mark, because I have a feeling they basically wanted you to say "she had broken her promise to Sychaeus never to love another man".

    Otherwise, I think it's all correct.
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    (Original post by Big-Daddy)
    For the translation, your meaning is wrong but grammatically seems to be right ... I put something similar ("it seemed right to Dido for Aeneas to stay in Libya and establish a new homeland there for the Trojans"). I'm still not entirely sure mine's wrong, since it makes sense as well.

    Your answer for 24 might not get the mark, because I have a feeling they basically wanted you to say "she had broken her promise to Sychaeus never to love another man".

    Otherwise, I think it's all correct.
    However Dido wasn't written anywhere in the sentence.

    My answer for 24 is a combination of mine and that of my class mates; saying she'd betrayed her husband represents the same idea.
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    However Dido wasn't written anywhere in the sentence.
    Yes, but you could always infer the verb to indicate "she" instead of "he". As I'm sure you know, that happens all the time in Greek.
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