4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitation
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4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitationhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-aged-men.html‘Vulnerable’ girls aged between 13 and 15 were plied with alcohol, drugs and cuddly toys in order to encourage them to have sex with men, a court heard.
Anthony Lambert, 51, Stefan Godfrey, 44, John Shaw, 54, Ijaz Ahmed, 35, and Mark Adaoui, 40, are accused of picking the youngsters up from streets in Derby and paying them up to £30 to perform sex acts
It seems that this issue isn't just limited to the Asian Muslim community like some posters on TSR would like you to think..
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It is claimed they targeted the three alleged victims, all of whom came from troubled backgrounds and been involved with social care.The girls in this case are very similar to the Rochdale case, were the girls in the Rochdale case really chosen because they were White (as we were told) or was it due to the easy access they presented (due to no stable family etc)?Mr Achurch said: ‘They are young women who have come from difficult backgrounds and have been heavily involved with social care. They are by definition vulnerable. They have not had the sort of parental attention they deserve.’ -
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Re: 4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitationIsn't it kind of scary that if they targeted that 15 year old when she was 16, they wouldn't face any jail time? I don't understand why they bother with underage girls. They aren't pedophiles rather ephebophilies and there are plenty of 16+ that have the body of 14-16s.
Anyway, I agree with you that those Asian men aren't targeting white women because they're white. Rather they're looking for vulnerable women and white working class women have a lower socioeconomic status than Asian women and make up the majority hence more likely to fit that criteria. -
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Re: 4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitation(Original post by Aaron_xyz)
Isn't Adaoui a North African surname? Pretty unusual.
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Re: 4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitationCare to elaborate?(Original post by Aaron_xyz)
Yeah thats the unusual thing. -
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Re: 4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitationWell I would expect a man with the surname Adaoui to look like this:(Original post by xXxiKillxXx)
Care to elaborate?
Considering the etymological origin of that surname is in North Africa, so thats the unusual thing.Last edited by Aaron_xyz; 14-06-2012 at 20:38. -
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Re: 4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitationCould very easily be of South African descent.(Original post by Aaron_xyz)
Isn't Adaoui a North African surname? Pretty unusual. -
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Re: 4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitationNo-one is saying only Asians are paedophiles. They are merely overrepresented on the statistics for child grooming, almost as high as natives, which shows proportionally more Asians are groomers. They are an ethnic minority, so it is quite legitimate to ask why there are more grooming Asians than there should be if we are all meant to be equal.(Original post by xXxiKillxXx)
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Re: 4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitation(Original post by Snagprophet)
No-one is saying only Asians are paedophiles. They are merely overrepresented on the statistics for child grooming, almost as high as natives, which shows proportionally more Asians are groomers. They are an ethnic minority, so it is quite legitimate to ask why there are more grooming Asians than there should be if we are all meant to be equal.
As though to prove the point, six more Asians are on trial now for grooming and rape of a white girl in Nelson.
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Re: 4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitationIt is! I would prefer if noone ever mentioned race in crimes such as this. However the point I am trying to make is that there isn't some sort of conspiracy by the Asian Muslim to 'enslave' White girls; ideas similar to this are perpetuated on TSR(Original post by Bill_Gates)
sick either way no?
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No-one is saying only Asians are paedophiles. They are merely overrepresented on the statistics for child grooming, almost as high as natives, which shows proportionally more Asians are groomers. They are an ethnic minority, so it is quite legitimate to ask why there are more grooming Asians than there should be if we are all meant to be equal.
Have you got statistics to back that up (I am not doubting you, simply curious). It wouldn't surprise me if its true, however, I posted this as I think the real reason why White girls are primarily targeted is due to the fact they make up the majority of care homes (up North anyway).. This is why both Asian and White men target them.. -
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Re: 4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitationhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18004153(Original post by xXxiKillxXx)
Have you got statistics to back that up (I am not doubting you, simply curious). It wouldn't surprise me if its true, however, I posted this as I think the real reason why White girls are primarily targeted is due to the fact they make up the majority of care homes (up North anyway).. This is why both Asian and White men target them..
No, you are quite right to ask for any evidence.
Something that doesn't add up, in the statistics, is how there can be any 'unknown' victims, unless these are those who reported it anonymously? -
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Re: 4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitationOne thing that caught my eye, out of the 346 Asian offenders only 45 were of Pakistani ethnicity (and 11 were from Bangladesh).. I thought the Asian offenders were mainly Pakistani? Also, what do you suggest? That there are even MORE Asian offenders?(Original post by Snagprophet)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18004153
No, you are quite right to ask for any evidence.
Something that doesn't add up, in the statistics, is how there can be any 'unknown' victims, unless these are those who reported it anonymously?
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Re: 4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitationIt's not just which group the offenders belong to. People always target white girls and I do strongly believe that is partially due to the lack of a real white identity. If you don't know what I mean, imagine what would have happened if the newspapers printed a story about a none-white peadophile gang targeting white girls in the 1950s. White men would have rioted over it. Because all anti-racist media is directed firmly at the white man (mostly for rational reasons) they are the only group that's really internalised it. This has made them weak, in a way and vulnerable in matters like gangs bullying white kids in ethnic majority areas and white girls on estates being targeted by paedophiles.
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Re: 4 White and 1 Asian man accused of sexual exploitationRegardless of the asian women's social class/caste? That seems racially dodgy.(Original post by Annoying-Mouse)
Isn't it kind of scary that if they targeted that 15 year old when she was 16, they wouldn't face any jail time? I don't understand why they bother with underage girls. They aren't pedophiles rather ephebophilies and there are plenty of 16+ that have the body of 14-16s.
Anyway, I agree with you that those Asian men aren't targeting white women because they're white. Rather they're looking for vulnerable women and white working class women have a lower socioeconomic status than Asian women and make up the majority hence more likely to fit that criteria.
