[zjs]

(Original post by es.c)
Body fat can easily be turned into muscle

Jesus ****ing wept. Your earlier posts were bad enough, but this?

Just stop talking.

[Arva]

(Original post by es.c)
It is, well at least amongst all the guys I've known who are normal build guys. Body fat can easily be turned into muscle as long as you eat protein and do weight training at least 3 times a week. I guess because I'm more in contact with youths my age, looking hench is what people want to be, but I guess for older people, theyd rather lose weight. This is The 'Student' Room so I assumed the majority of readers would be around my age

If I acted upon my feelings every time somebody said the words "you can turn fat into muscle" I would have thrown myself in front of a car, or thrown someone else in front.

You can't do it! Please, I beg you, stop perpetrating this madness!

[Arva]

(Original post by zjs)
Jesus ****ing wept. Your earlier posts were bad enough, but this?

Just stop talking.

This. By the way, your sig is awesome.

[es.c]

(Original post by zjs)
Jesus ****ing wept. Your earlier posts were bad enough, but this?

Just stop talking.

As in the process is protein builds muscle, and the exercise burns the fat...
Useful input you had to the convo (Y)

[zjs]

(Original post by es.c)
As in the process is protein builds muscle, and the exercise burns the fat...
Useful input you had to the convo (Y)

Please explain how protein building muscle and exercise burning fat allows you to arrive at the conclusion that fat becomes muscle.

[tooosh]

(Original post by es.c)
As in the process is protein builds muscle, and the exercise burns the fat...
Useful input you had to the convo (Y)

It would be useful input if it was correct.

[es.c]

(Original post by zjs)
Please explain how protein building muscle and exercise burning fat allows you to arrive at the conclusion that fat becomes muscle.

I could either say "the protein you eat from food helps build muscle from the exercise, and the exercise then burns fat so long as you work at a specific heart rate"
Or summarize it as an overall process whereby:
"Fat becomes muscle". Although not true, dont you agree its quicker to write that and that only a small portion of society would try to act clever but essentially look stupid by trying to burn someone on the basis of those three words?
By the way who are you? Lol

[Didierr]

you want to be fat?
eat
and eat
and eat some more

[zjs]

(Original post by es.c)
I could either say "the protein you eat from food helps build muscle from the exercise, and the exercise then burns fat so long as you 'work at a specific heart rate"
Or summarize it as an overall process whereby:
"Fat becomes muscle". Although not true, dont you agree its quicker to write that and that only a small portion of society would try to act clever but essentially look stupid by trying to burn someone on the basis of those three words?
By the way who are you? Lol

Wait, what?

It's not 'quicker to write' because what you're writing is neither true - as you are now admitting - and nor does it encapsulate the point that you claim you were trying to make.

[es.c]

(Original post by zjs)
Wait, what?

It's not 'quicker to write' because what you're writing is neither true - as you are now admitting - and nor does it encapsulate the point that you claim you were trying to make.

LOL. Do you read forums only to pick at these minor things? Advice for the OP would be nice, not trolling about. I always find it amusing when a conversation flows and then someone, somewhere pops up to give irrelevant input. Makes my day;I love people like you . Good day, and keep up the helpful work (Y)

[tooosh]

(Original post by es.c)
LOL. Do you read forums only to pick at these minor things? Advice for the OP would be nice, not trolling about. I always find it amusing when a conversation flows and then someone, somewhere pops up to give irrelevant input. Makes my day;I love people like you . Good day, and keep up the helpful work (Y)

Your "summary" was wrong. Your expanded point wasn't correct - you do burn more fat in heart rate ranges but it's irrelevant what gets burnt if at the end of the day, you've eaten more calories than you've burnt. He didn't pick at a minor thing, almost everything you said was wrong. Sorry.

[es.c]

(Original post by tooosh)
Your "summary" was wrong. Your expanded point wasn't correct - you do burn more fat in heart rate ranges but it's irrelevant what gets burnt if at the end of the day, you've eaten more calories than you've burnt. He didn't pick at a minor thing, almost everything you said was wrong. Sorry.

Haha, another one. It is relevant as to what gets burnt because you'd want to burn fat so would work at 60-80%, this is on the basis that you want to put on muscle, rather than fat. So you're saying that in the "summary", you don't gain muscle by the digestion of protein and over-use of muscle, and that you dont burn fat when exercising in a specific heart range..?

[Derek.]

(Original post by Arva)
Why in hell would anybody in their right minds want to get fat?
I have nothing against overweight people, some find it really hard to lose weight. However I simply can't understand somebody wanting to become fat.

For some people, it is actually quite hard to gain weight. This could be down to a number of factors. I know I'm thin and want to gain weight too, or even muscle mass. No matter how hard I train or eat, my body still stays the same. When the original poster of this thread says "she/he wants to become fat", i think she/he is merely saying she/he wants to gain a little fat"

In this day and age, everything tells us to be healthy and most shops will contain a "less fat" product next to a normal product. We just want to be normal (i.e. not under-weight or over-weight)

[tooosh]

(Original post by es.c)
Haha, another one. It is relevant as to what gets burnt because you'd want to burn fat so would work at 60-80%, this is on the basis that you want to put on muscle, rather than fat. So you're saying that in the "summary", you don't gain muscle by the digestion of protein and over-use of muscle, and that you dont burn fat when exercising in a specific heart range..?

You're not completely wrong, but you haven't got the concept of macronutrients down. In the short term you will burn more fat by working in a specific heart rate range but if you eat more calories than you consume, you'll put that fat back on very quickly. In the long term, if you work at a higher heart rate to burn more calories, you might take more energy from glycogen stores and blood sugar while you exercise, but you will lose more fat overall afterwards.

Quit it with the "ha another one" and "irrelevant" comments. Big man...

[es.c]

(Original post by tooosh)
You're not completely wrong, but you haven't got the concept of macronutrients down. In the short term you will burn more fat by working in a specific heart rate range but if you eat more calories than you consume, you'll put that fat back on very quickly. In the long term, if you work at a higher heart rate to burn more calories, you might take more energy from glycogen stores and blood sugar while you exercise, but you will lose more fat overall afterwards.

Quit it with the "ha another one" and "irrelevant" comments. Big man...

That's a fair point I guess, but I was stating it in terms of a months worth of exercise, so short term, and you were looking at it in long terms. And sorry if I annoyed you
Btw did you do sports science?

[tooosh]

(Original post by es.c)
That's a fair point I guess, but I was stating it in terms of a months worth of exercise, so short term, and you were looking at it in long terms. And sorry if I annoyed you
Btw did you do sports science?

Actually I'm considering short term as by day, or even as short as the few hours after exercising, and long term by weeks and months.

I don't do sports science, it's just stuff I've learnt by general research.

And it's alright haha. Just be a bit more cool about criticism

[Stacey-]

You should be happy you're not fat imo.

[es.c]

(Original post by tooosh)
Actually I'm considering short term as by day, or even as short as the few hours after exercising, and long term by weeks and months.

I don't do sports science, it's just stuff I've learnt by general research.

And it's alright haha. Just be a bit more cool about criticism

But judging by your knowledge, you must have some link to fitness? Maybe proffesional trainer or something?

[tooosh]

(Original post by es.c)
But judging by your knowledge, you must have some link to fitness? Maybe proffesional trainer or something?

No, just reading. All the information is on the internet, it just takes you wanting to find it to learn it!

[The Owl of Minerva]

Deep fried Mars bar. Surely!