B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)So you admit that it's point 1 and 2 then? You admit that your Bill is a nationalist Bill. I don't get why you don't simply devolve the powers for adopting national anthems and flags and be done with it (that's if they can't do it already). You let the people decide their own destiny. Westminster imposing solutions will only stir up nationalist tendencies in those nations and that will break the union.(Original post by xXedixXx)
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)No it's a patriotic Bill.(Original post by toronto353)
So you admit that it's point 1 and 2 then? You admit that your Bill is a nationalist Bill. I don't get why you don't simply devolve the powers for adopting national anthems and flags and be done with it (that's if they can't do it already). You let the people decide their own destiny. Westminster imposing solutions will only stir up nationalist tendencies in those nations and that will break the union. -
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)Surely if it were a patriotic Bill it would be as I propose above because it would allow those who are patriotic towards their own nation to decide their own flag and anthem? This is state sponsored nationalism which ironically will end up being nationalist sentiment against this Government. Imposing a solution from above won't work. It will lead to more nationalist resentment against the Government. I'd love to hear your theories on why this won't happen though....(Original post by xXedixXx)
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)You fully well know the limitations on referendums in the MHoC. I would hold a referendum for every constituent country of the UK to decide their National Anthem but you know that isn't possible.(Original post by toronto353)
Surely if it were a patriotic Bill it would be as I propose above because it would allow those who are patriotic towards their own nation to decide their own flag and anthem? This is state sponsored nationalism which ironically will end up being nationalist sentiment against this Government. Imposing a solution from above won't work. It will lead to more nationalist resentment against the Government. I'd love to hear your theories on why this won't happen though.... -
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)Just devolve the powers over national anthems etc to the various nations. You don't need referendums.(Original post by xXedixXx)
You fully well know the limitations on referendums in the MHoC. I would hold a referendum for every constituent country of the UK to decide their National Anthem but you know that isn't possible. -
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)Any reason why you've negged me? What part of my argument do you disagree with? I'd rather you debated with me than neg me.(Original post by Gridiron-Gangster)
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)Must... resist... temptation.. to .. neg(Original post by toronto353)
Any reason why you've negged me? What part of my argument do you disagree with? I'd rather you debated with me than neg me.
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)And how is that good?(Original post by xXedixXx)
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)Because we should be patriotic about our nation in my opinion.(Original post by davidmarsh01)
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)Why?(Original post by xXedixXx)
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)SO we have to listen to Rule Brittania AND God Save the Queen, AND the disaster of Londonderry Air? This is even more silly than before and is a No, especially considering how poor your arguments were in the first reading.
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)(Original post by xXedixXx)
Because we should be patriotic about our nation in my opinion.Remember that time I asked this question? I do, barely, after all, it has been that long since I asked it with no reply.(Original post by davidmarsh01)
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Re: B460 - National Anthems Bill (Second Reading)You know your party is on the rocky road to ruin when you are forced to outsmart your fellow members.(Original post by davidmarsh01)
Remember that time I asked this question? I do, barely, after all, it has been that long since I asked it with no reply.
