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To those who took OCR Biology this summer

Original post by hprmc


This user is saying that Question 4 of the linked paper came in the paper that you sat, and I literally quote, "word for word".

Can any TSR users who have taken this exam verify this please?

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Part a and b were exactly the same. C was slightly different as it included how hydrogen ions can alter the force of muscle contraction, but it's still along the same lines.
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Original post by im so academic
This user is saying that Question 4 of the linked paper came in the paper that you sat, and I literally quote, "word for word".

Can any TSR users who have taken this exam verify this please?


tehehe are you trying to prove me wrong? :colone:
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Original post by TattyBoJangles
Part a and b were exactly the same. C was slightly different as it included how hydrogen ions can alter the force of muscle contraction, but it's still along the same lines.


part c is on a different page... parts a and b of the question could have easily been photocopied from this... its identical
Original post by hprmc
part c is on a different page... parts a and b of the question could have easily been photocopied from this... its identical


Eh? I know, that's what I said :P

Not *all* of Question 4 was identical, because in the exam the long question involved talking about hydrogen ions whereas the one in the 2003 was on general muscle contraction. But I agree, part A and B were identical, apart from maybe the actual size of the photo.
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Original post by TattyBoJangles
Part a and b were exactly the same. C was slightly different as it included how hydrogen ions can alter the force of muscle contraction, but it's still along the same lines.


I could easily link to other papers where questions are repeated. That's just natural.
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I could easily link to other papers where questions are repeated. That's just natural.


Feel free; I've never said it doesn't happen, I was just answering your question.
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Original post by im so academic
I could easily link to other papers where questions are repeated. That's just natural.


are you serious?!?!
where?? lol
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Original post by TattyBoJangles


Eh? I know, that's what I said :P

Not *all* of Question 4 was identical, because in the exam the long question involved talking about hydrogen ions whereas the one in the 2003 was on general muscle contraction. But I agree, part A and B were identical, apart from maybe the actual size of the photo.


paha sorry.. i am so academic didnt seem to believe me when i said it was identical...

how did you find the paper?
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Original post by im so academic
I could easily link to other papers where questions are repeated. That's just natural.


It is, but not that much. Repeated questions that are word for word are usually a max of 2 marks.

This however had a maths based question and was worth 10 marks.
Original post by hprmc
part c is on a different page... parts a and b of the question could have easily been photocopied from this... its identical


So it wasn't exactly the whole question was it? :rolleyes:

But yes, exam boards do re-use questions - just reword them. E.g.:

Question 17 and interestingly Question 17 from here before.

This is why you should be doing past papers.
Original post by swiftylol
It is, but not that much. Repeated questions that are word for word are usually a max of 2 marks.

This however had a maths based question and was worth 10 marks.


What's so bad about that? If anything it's advantageous to the student. The exams boards are helping you here!
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Original post by im so academic
So it wasn't exactly the whole question was it? :rolleyes:

But yes, exam boards do re-use questions - just reword them. E.g.:

Question 17 and interestingly Question 17 from here before.

This is why you should be doing past papers.


i said the PAGE COULD HAVE BEEN PHOTOCOPIED... the essay question was on a DIFFERENT page... lol
this want even reworded! 10 marks is quite a lot...
Original post by im so academic
What's so bad about that? If anything it's advantageous to the student. The exams boards are helping you here!


If that happend on my exam board (AQA) then i'd have had an advantage since i covered all the past papers. However, not everyone has access to 2003 past papers as they are not even on the website or the spec thus it's a still a slight disadvantage, so i can see where they are coming from.
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Original post by im so academic
So it wasn't exactly the whole question was it? :rolleyes:

But yes, exam boards do re-use questions - just reword them. E.g.:

Question 17 and interestingly Question 17 from here before.

This is why you should be doing past papers.


and the example you just gave me is nothing like the situation here... that is a single mark question about a common thing on the spec...
the bio wasnt just one part of a question... it was all the parts except the essay. the words were word for word.
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Original post by im so academic
What's so bad about that? If anything it's advantageous to the student. The exams boards are helping you here!


if they copy large chunks of past questions like this, it defeats the whole point of the exam... the exam boards job is not to help us... it is to come up with a fair test which is used to test students' knowledge of the course... not whether they have done all the past papers out there and memorised the markscheme to regurgitate it back up in the exam.
Original post by hprmc
i said the PAGE COULD HAVE BEEN PHOTOCOPIED... the essay question was on a DIFFERENT page... lol
this want even reworded! 10 marks is quite a lot...


Why are you even complaining? Surely it's a good thing?
Original post by swiftylol
If that happend on my exam board (AQA) then i'd have had an advantage since i covered all the past papers. However, not everyone has access to 2003 past papers as they are not even on the website or the spec thus it's a still a slight disadvantage, so i can see where they are coming from.


1. It's not illegal to re-word questions from previous past papers.
2. If you learnt the content well enough, you would be able to answer the question anyway.
3. You're implying success on that question is dependent on looking at that 2003. It wasn't.
4. Common sense would tell you to search through every past paper you can find anyway.
5. "They're not on the website" - not a good enough excuse.
6. Tough ****.
Original post by hprmc
if they copy large chunks of past questions like this, it defeats the whole point of the exam... the exam boards job is not to help us... it is to come up with a fair test which is used to test students' knowledge of the course... not whether they have done all the past papers out there and memorised the markscheme to regurgitate it back up in the exam.


You have virtually described every exam taken in this country at GCSE and at A-level.
Original post by im so academic
1. It's not illegal to re-word questions from previous past papers.
2. If you learnt the content well enough, you would be able to answer the question anyway.
3. You're implying success on that question is dependent on looking at that 2003. It wasn't.
4. Common sense would tell you to search through every past paper you can find anyway.
5. "They're not on the website" - not a good enough excuse.
6. Tough ****.


Lol it wasn't being re-worded, that happend all the time.

It was word to word for 10 marks

Also, whyusomad?

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