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  1. TenOfThem's Avatar
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    They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    And ask a single question about that

    This could replace the entire C4 unusable paper

    That is how complex these rules seem to be

    What is wrong with straightforward Goal Difference



    (please understand this is just a joke ... I know C4 is hard)
    Last edited by TenOfThem; 17-06-2012 at 21:00.
  2. Tomcrease's Avatar
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    And ask a single question about that

    This could replace the entire C4 unusable paper

    That is how complex these rules seem to be

    What is wrong with straightforward Goal Difference



    (please understand this is just a joke ... I know C4 is hard)
    I agree, when Russia went out yesterday I was questioning it for a good hour.
  3. TenOfThem's Avatar
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    (Original post by Tomcrease)
    I agree, when Russia went out yesterday I was questioning it for a good hour.
    This evening's is even more complex

    I could not see for the life of me how the Dutch can go through ... even if they win

    After my 20th reading I now think that ... if all 3 are on 3 points they re-do the table ignoring the games with Germany and look at goal difference there

    Or something like that
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    Does a doubletake! Football! :eek3: Runaway, runaway....
  5. Tomcrease's Avatar
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    This evening's is even more complex

    I could not see for the life of me how the Dutch can go through ... even if they win

    After my 20th reading I now think that ... if all 3 are on 3 points they re-do the table ignoring the games with Germany and look at goal difference there

    Or something like that
    I've given up trying to understand, I just know they have to win with 2 goal difference and germany need to win. I don't understand why or how.
  6. TenOfThem's Avatar
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    (Original post by ghostwalker)
    Does a doubletake! Football! :eek3: Runaway, runaway....
    sowwy

    but there was a hint in the thread title
  7. Danny.'s Avatar
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    It goes by head to head results, then goal difference. Not that hard to understand guys!
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    (Original post by Danny.)
    It goes by head to head results, then goal difference. Not that hard to understand guys!
    Ha

    That is where you share my initial confusion

    If Germany and Holland win tonight and 3 of them are on the same points ... then it is GD before head to head but not including GD in games with Germany

    HA
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    This evening's is even more complex

    I could not see for the life of me how the Dutch can go through ... even if they win

    After my 20th reading I now think that ... if all 3 are on 3 points they re-do the table ignoring the games with Germany and look at goal difference there

    Or something like that
    I was thinking exactly the same thing!

    Even if the dutch win by what they claim to be a 2 goal lead. They'd still come 3rd if we are to assume the same rules for Russia because they already lost head to head against Denmark.

    So I really don't understand what they mean, they're using one rule one minute and switching from h2h to gd the next. :confused:
  10. TenOfThem's Avatar
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    moot now


    Unless the Danes score
  11. TenOfThem's Avatar
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    (Original post by TheGrinningSkull)
    I was thinking exactly the same thing!

    Even if the dutch win by what they claim to be a 2 goal lead. They'd still come 3rd if we are to assume the same rules for Russia because they already lost head to head against Denmark.

    So I really don't understand what they mean, they're using one rule one minute and switching from h2h to gd the next. :confused:
    There is one set of rules if 2 are on the same points and a different set of rules if 3 are on the same points

  12. Allofthem's Avatar
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    Was hoping for group theory, football instead, quite the scare.
  13. BabyMaths's Avatar
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    Is there some kind of football competition going on?
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    (Original post by BabyMaths)
    Is there some kind of football competition going on?
    LoL

    yep

    Sorry to all who hoped this would be maths

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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    All that matters is that Ronaldo scored twice to finally get some points for my dream team.
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    (Original post by Brit_Miller)
    All that matters is that Ronaldo scored twice to finally get some points for my dream team.
    That second goal was superb wasn't it
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    And ask a single question about that

    This could replace the entire C4 unusable paper

    That is how complex these rules seem to be

    What is wrong with straightforward Goal Difference



    (please understand this is just a joke ... I know C4 is hard)
    I dont understand we havent learnt anything about the euro's in AS maths
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    When I have a nervous breakdown over integration by parts, I'll just explain the offside rule instead. Probably get a few more marks
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    (Original post by TenOfThem)
    That second goal was superb wasn't it
    Great composure. Shame he missed out on the hat-trick.
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    Re: They could use a Euro 2012 group table
    If the group had ended


    GER 9
    DEN 3
    POR 3
    NED 3

    The 3-way tiebreaker goes:

    1. Points obtained in the matches between teams in question
    - Equal, as DEN beat NED, POR beat DEN and hypothetically NED beat RUS

    2. Goal difference in matches between the teams in question
    - DEN even, POR was +1 before tonight, NED was -1, so if the Dutch won by two they'd be +1 and POR -1, so they go through

    (If Holland won by 1 goal it goes to the next step)

    3. Goal difference in all games(ie who lost to Germany by the least)
    - Again this would all be even at -1

    4. Goals scored in all games
    - Portugal wins this step
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