Who create the creator ?
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Re: Who create the creator ?Really? Is that the purpose of the immanent God of mystical religion? Mysticism has never sought to find literal or rational truths.(Original post by GR3YFOXXX)
We did. We as humans created a fictitious creator to satisfy the gaps in our understanding of existence. -
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Re: Who create the creator ?This isn't an answer the the problem, it's just restating what causes the problem.(Original post by pyjamatrousers.)
Like someone said previously; this could go one forever! if God made us then we answer to Him, not to whoever made Him if someone did make Him, right?
The argument states that there must be a first cause because of the laws of cause and effect, and that first cause must be a god (insert various reasons). However, the problem is that if they're going to use cause an effect, the obvious a logical reply to that, is that their first cause is breaking the rule in their own argument, it is a self-defeating position. -
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Re: Who create the creator ?(Original post by MAA_96)
Hello everyone !!
I want to know any arguments or ideas about this issue .
what's with the title, who create the creator??? huh doesn't make sense at all. Listen can u tell me how big space is (no), but u do know and believe it's big innit? whyyyyyyy??? how comes?? prove it???? well the anwers is comman sense,right? Same goes with the existence of God and all the other taboos people manifest about Him -
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Re: Who create the creator ?No...because "God" is outside of the laws of nature; they don't apply to him.. he made the laws?(Original post by SquishyWormy)
This isn't an answer the the problem, it's just restating what causes the problem.
The argument states that there must be a first cause because of the laws of cause and effect, and that first cause must be a god (insert various reasons). However, the problem is that if they're going to use cause an effect, the obvious a logical reply to that, is that their first cause is breaking the rule in their own argument, it is a self-defeating position. -
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Re: Who create the creator ?As far as we know, everything in this universe comes about from physical processes - by calling what caused something to be a 'creator', you're ascribing some form of intent or an ego. We don't know anything about what created the universe yet, but we have no reason to assume that it had either an intent or an ego, so we shouldn't.
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Re: Who create the creator ?The magical get out clause, do you actually find that convincing?(Original post by pyjamatrousers.)
No...because "God" is outside of the laws of nature; they don't apply to him.. he made the laws? -
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Re: Who create the creator ?The human mind can only go to a certain extent. All our lives we have believed that something has CAUSED something to happen. Therefore, we think that something can only be present if it's caused or created by something. For example, we come from our mothers, they've gave birth/created us or whatever you wanna call it.(Original post by MAA_96)
Hello everyone !!
I want to know any arguments or ideas about this issue .
And since your talking about the creator, the answer is well out of the limit our minds can think to. Of course if we knew exactly who created the creator, we most people will then believe in him and since life is a "test", it won't work. The creator is testing us on our actions and thoughts. If he gave us the answer everyone would pass.
Do you get me?
By the way, this excludes Atheists
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Re: Who create the creator ?Well, yes...that's why I said it.(Original post by SquishyWormy)
The magical get out clause, do you actually find that convincing? -
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Re: Who create the creator ?Okay...(Original post by MAA_96)
Hello everyone !!
I want to know any arguments or ideas about this issue .
Here are a few things to help you on your way.
The Idea that there is a creator is based upon the theory that he created himself out of all energy that has ever existed or will exist. You have a consciousness and as a result of that you are able to say what feelings you like and don't like. You are also apart of the consciousness that is God. Everything you have felt is what God has felt over an infinite amount of time. In other words.... The story of your life is the story of his existence. (That is the key to unlocking many minds to the truth) Why am I such a genius?
What my eye's tell from the picture of the universe is..... That there are two dominant forces in everything that happens. From this point on wards peoples beliefs tend to vary to an extreme. I highly advise never thinking about it in this way. A long time ago... Someone advised me to not think in this pattern as it can really make you go insane.Last edited by Komatic; 07-07-2012 at 22:21. -
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Re: Who create the creator ?Did you mean god? As far as I know there is not a passage in the bible in which it is written how god is emerged. Correct me if I'm wrong!(Original post by MAA_96)
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