[Darth Stewie]

(Original post by ExMuslim)
How about the fact the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis are trying to take over Egypt and have promised to start a regional war with Israel?

Israel would decimate them, if they are stupid enough to go to war with Israel then i can't see them having the intellectual capacity to ever pose a real threat to us.

How about the fact that the Al Shabab Islamist insurgency is waging war in Southern Somalia and has launched several attacks against Uganda and Kenya in Eastern Africa?

Kenya can hold its own and is free to ask for help if they need it, don't give a flying crap about Uganda given their track record but they don't seem like the roll over and play dead type.

How about the fact that the Taliban is trying to overthrow the Western backed Kabul government?

This is the same Taliban that lost control of its country and ran to hide across the border? Has to hit civilians because of their sheer military incompetence? The only way they could ever take Afghanistan back is if they gain massive public support and that seems unlikely.

How about the fact that Al Qadea is making a base in Yemen and is considering attacking oil installations in nearby Saudi Arabia?

Who do i like less, Al Qadea or Saudi Arabia....gotta get back to you on that.

How about the fact that the Islamic Republic of Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons?

They are already crumbling under international sanctions, even if they develop nuclear weapons they can't deliver them to us and the second the USA gets proof they have them Iran won't be around much longer.

SURLY YOU MUST BE KIDDING WHEN YOU SAY YOU DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM

To our society, not to societies half way across the world. The only nation mentioned that i really care about is Israel and they can handle themselves. Didn't say it doesn't cause problems around the world just that it has about as much chance of destroying our society as an outbreak of C0oT1E5.

[ExMuslim]

(Original post by de_monies)
Most of your threads are about Islam though. If you really thought that, then surely you'd make threads about others as well?

I don't know all that much about other religions. I'll let ex Christians criticize Christianity, and ex Jews Judaism, and ex Hindus Hindusim, etc. My date is with Islam. heh

[rugito]

'i see no changes all i see is racist faces misplaced hate makes disgrace to races'
look at the religion... not the people that follow it

[ExMuslim]

(Original post by Darth Stewie)
Israel would decimate them, if they are stupid enough to go to war with Israel then i can't see them having the intellectual capacity to ever pose a real threat to us.



Kenya can hold its own and is free to ask for help if they need it, don't give a flying crap about Uganda given their track record but they don't seem like the roll over and play dead type.



This is the same Taliban that lost control of its country and ran to hide across the border? Has to hit civilians because of their sheer military incompetence? The only way they could ever take Afghanistan back is if they gain massive public support and that seems unlikely.



Who do i like less, Al Qadea or Saudi Arabia....gotta get back to you on that.



They are already crumbling under international sanctions, even if they develop nuclear weapons they can't deliver them to us and the second the USA gets proof they have them Iran won't be around much longer.




To our society, not to societies half way across the world. The only nation mentioned that i really care about is Israel and they can handle themselves. Didn't say it doesn't cause problems around the world just that it has about as much chance of destroying our society as an outbreak of C0oT1E5.

God, I hope the people managing our national defense aren't as dismissive of Islamic terrorism as you are, or else we'd be having 9/11's all the time!

[notsure]

(Original post by ExMuslim)
You don't see the problem with Islam you say?

How about the fact the Muslim Brotherhood and Salafis are trying to take over Egypt and have promised to start a regional war with Israel?

How about the fact that the Al Shabab Islamist insurgency is waging war in Southern Somalia and has launched several attacks against Uganda and Kenya in Eastern Africa?

How about the fact that the Taliban is trying to overthrow the Western backed Kabul government?

How about the fact that Al Qadea is making a base in Yemen and is considering attacking oil installations in nearby Saudi Arabia?

How about the fact that the Islamic Republic of Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons?

SURLY YOU MUST BE KIDDING WHEN YOU SAY YOU DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM

Im half kenyan and somalian and i have a lot of history from the two countries and for a fact i know that these so called ''terrorist attacks'' are simply set up by the governmental to gain whatever they want from the countries. Especially now that they've found petroleum and uranium in somalia, the government has already said they want to go in and take they're apparent ''share''

I've also lived there for some time and I've never heard of such things until recently the public media is being flooded with these ''apparent reports''. To be honest these countries are very calm, civilized countries but these days everyone can be a co-called ''political analyst or religious analyst as you're doing now so i haven't got time to try and have a silly debate with you about ''THE PROBLEM WITH MUSLIMS'' which is overly disrespectful!

[Rizzy J]

(Original post by Left Hand Drive)
Let people discuss and make threads on what they want.

OP has made many threads about Islam. It's getting to the point where it's pretty annoying now

[xBillyBrownx]

This topic is brand new. Well done.

[Pinkool14]

Dude, its people like YOU who spread all the negative, unecessary and stupid things about islam, which eventually makes the world into CHAOS! And obviously this does NOT apply to all muslims. Its Anyone in the whole world who has a bad mindless brain!
Im a Hindu and tbh, this thread is total bullshyt.

So. Seriously. Stop.

[notsure]

(Original post by ExMuslim)
I don't know all that much about other religions. I'll let ex Christians criticize Christianity, and ex Jews Judaism, and ex Hindus Hindusim, etc. My date is with Islam. heh

Oh you're an ''EX-MUSLIM'' i doubt it.

[ExMuslim]

The Muslim response to this thread is proving my point. Instead of discussing the issue at hand, there are personal attacks against me, attempts to derail the thread, accusations and insults, and attempts to deny that anything is wrong with Islam and that I must be ignorant for even suggesting such a thing.

sigh.....

[Old Father Time]

I think people of all different types of religion have their modern followers, and their traditional by the book followers. Christianity/Judaism is no different in that respect. Think you're making a generalization to be honest.

[23Mijk]

(Original post by ExMuslim)
The problem with Muslims is that they think their religion is perfect and can do no wrong. This mentality is what makes Islam so resistant to the changes and reforms necessary to make it more compatible with life in the 21st century. Both Christianity and Judaism have undergone these changes and as a result have become more mellow. The majority of Muslims are good people, but they really need to stop holding a book written in the 7th century by a supposedly illiterate Bedouin to be the literal and inerrant word of the creator of the universe. Otherwise they will fail in this world and will drag the rest of us back with them.

The problem is that Muslim haters attempt to put Muslims in a situation where they're damned if they do and damned if they dont.

If the Muslim says their religion is inerrant and perfect, the Islamophobe will complain about this as you have done.

If the Muslim says their religion is not inerrant and yes maybe it needs to be reinterpreted or whatever, the Muslim hater will triumphantly say 'HA YOU ARENT REAL MUSLIMS' and then probably proceed to tell everyone how 'moderates' are even worse then terrorists because they 'facilitate' terrorism or some **** like that.

The fact that Islam originates in the 7th century is not even a valid criticism. Its just a silly strawman suggesting that if we follow 'real' Islam we'll be going back to camels and living in the sand or something. Guess what? Democracy predates Islam and goes back to ancient Greece. Does this mean that by advocating democracy someone also advocates wearing togas and eating humus or whatever the greeks used to do?

(Original post by ExMuslim)
Why do Muslims become so annoyed and angry when people talk about their faith? Is it because you think its perfect and thus above all criticism? Because if so you're just proving my point lol

Actually they dont. Its when people simply slander their faith in a way that is not even supposed to spark debate. Was drawing cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad supposed to create discussion and debate? No. It was intended to isolate an already marginalised community. And some Muslims were stupid enough to fall for the bait and get publically angry about it.

(Original post by ExMuslim)
You sound extremely ignorant of the world. 1) Most Jews in Israel are secular 2) It's called Reform Judaism (look it up)

This is mostly true. BUT, these secular Jews are often incredibly violent and intolerant towards the Palestinian people, which shows the religion (in this case Judaism) isnt the problem. Racist and power hungry people are.

(Original post by ExMuslim)
9/11 attacks brah, 7/7
wasn't caused by cotties

Read some statistics. Terrorist attacks by Muslims in the West are not only lower then non Muslim attacks but disproportionately low. How many people in the states have been killed in Muslim terrorist attacks since 9/11? NONE. And do you know why Bin Laden carried out those attacks? Not because he didnt like 'freedom' or 'infidelity,' infact he SAID that IF he had wanted to attack a country for these reasons he would have attacked sweden! Bin Laden may have been a Muslim but his *reasons* for attacking the US were secular. In fact its Bin Laden who, if anyone is the 'modernist' Muslim. Why? Because when asked how he could reconcille killing women and children with the Prophet Muhammads explicit commands NOT to kill women and children, he said that ''those rules are not for all times and places.''

Heres some basic statistics on Islamic terrorism that everyone needs to see. I would also recommend listening to Professor Robert Pape, one of the leading experts on suicide terrorism, not some shoddy pseudointellectual like Christopher Hitchens or Richard dawkins that so many simpletons seems so obsessed with nowadays http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not...s-are-muslims/ http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/

[Left Hand Drive]

(Original post by Rizzy J)
OP has made many threads about Islam. It's getting to the point where it's pretty annoying now

Everyone knows he's an idiot. Let him make his threads. Don't click into them.

[ExMuslim]

(Original post by notsure)
Im half kenyan and somalian and i have a lot of history from the two countries and for a fact i know that these so called ''terrorist attacks'' are simply set up by the governmental to gain whatever they want from the countries. Especially now that they've found petroleum and uranium in somalia, the government has already said they want to go in and take they're apparent ''share''

I've also lived there for some time and I've never heard of such things until recently the public media is being flooded with these ''apparent reports''. To be honest these countries are very calm, civilized countries but these days everyone can be a co-called ''political analyst or religious analyst as you're doing now so i haven't got time to try and have a silly debate with you about ''THE PROBLEM WITH MUSLIMS'' which is overly disrespectful!

Waryaa, you need to be sent to Southern Somalia so you can experience Al Shabab. Look at what they're doing in Mogadishu, Kismayo, gedo etc.

[Dhaal_Chawal]

(Original post by ExMuslim)
The Muslim response to this thread is proving my point. Instead of discussing the issue at hand, there are personal attacks against me, attempts to derail the thread, accusations and insults, and attempts to deny that anything is wrong with Islam and that I must be ignorant for even suggesting such a thing.

sigh.....

Maybe that's because of your thread title 'the problem with muslims' which implies muslims are a problem. How do you expect them to react?

[Darth Stewie]

(Original post by ExMuslim)
God, I hope the people managing our national defense aren't as dismissive of Islamic terrorism as you are, or else we'd be having 9/11's all the time!

I'm dismissive because i have full confidence that our security services are more than capable and do regularly handle threats to our country, that's part of why Islamic extremism/terrorism/fundamentalism or whatever the kids are calling it these days is not a threat to the continuation of our society and indeed of the developed world.

It is problematic but so are people dropping electrical devices in baths, doesn't mean it is a serious threat to our society.

[Am.K]

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[ExMuslim]

(Original post by Dhaal_Chawal)
Maybe that's because of your thread title 'the problem with muslims' which implies muslims are a problem. How do you expect them to react?

Do you not see the problem with that attitude?

There are problems with Islam, as it is a man-made religion, and those problems need to be addressed. Denying the problems exist and making up a gazillion excuses for them is not okay.

[Petro_99]

(Original post by ExMuslim)
I don't know all that much about other religions. I'll let ex Christians criticize Christianity, and ex Jews Judaism, and ex Hindus Hindusim, etc. My date is with Islam. heh

you have too much hate

you are associating Islam with hate, yet you have too much hate yourself. its unhealthy.

(Original post by Rizzy J)
OP has made many threads about Islam. It's getting to the point where it's pretty annoying now

definetly, most threads created by Ex-Muslim regarding the same stuff. Answered a million times already.

(Original post by xBillyBrownx)
This topic is brand new. Well done.

LOL creativity.

[Dhaal_Chawal]

(Original post by ExMuslim)
Do you not see the problem with that attitude?

There are problems with Islam, as it is a man-made religion, and those problems need to be addressed. Denying the problems exist and making up a gazillion excuses for them is not okay.

Well then you should have made your thread title 'the problem with Islam' not muslims.