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  1. naturesenshi's Avatar
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    Solomon Press C4 Paper D Question 8:Help please!
    Can some please tell me how I can solve this and explain why?. I've looked at the marks scheme but that also didn't help much

    8) The line l1 passes through points A and B with position vectors (-3i + 3j + 2k) and (7i -j +12k) respectively, relative to a fixed origin.

    i) Find a vector equation for l1. [2]

    The line l2 has the equation
    r=(5j -7k) + t(i -2j + 7k)

    The point C lies on l2 and is such that AC is perpendicular to BC.

    ii) Show that one possible vector for C is (i + 3j) and find the other. [8]

    Assuming that C has the position vector (i + 3j),

    ii) find the area of the triangle ABC, giving your answer in the form k(5)^1/2 [3]

    Thank you!!
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    Re: Solomon Press C4 Paper D Question 8:Help please!
    Do you have a problem with all three parts?

    i)
    The vector equation of a line is r=[point]+(parameter)[direction].
    So when you're given two points (for example A and B), you have a point on the line (for example A) and you can find the direction by finding the vector that connects the two points (for example vector AB).

    So l1: r = (-3i + 3j + 2k) + s (10i - 4j + 10k)

    ii) Perpendicular means the angle between the two vectors equals 90. You should always think perpendicular = dot product because the dot product is one of the simplest formulae that includes the angle between two vectors.

    AC is perpendicular to BC if:
    AC•BC=|AC||BC|cos90=0
    (A-C)•(B-C)=0
    (-3i+3j+2k-i-3j)•(7i-j+12k-i-3j)=0
    (-4i+2k)•(6i-4j+12k)=0
    -24+0+24=0 QED

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    Oh, I forgot that you have to show that C is on l2.

    x=0+t=1
    y=5-2t=3
    z=-7+7t=0

    All true when t=1, so there exists some t (t=1) such that r=C.



    Let's go back a few steps, replacing the components of C with xi+yj+zk

    (-3i+3j+2k-xi-yj-zk)•(7i-j+12k-xi-yj-zk)=0
    ((-3-x)i+(3-y)j+(2-z)k)•((7-x)i+(-1-y)j+(12-z)k)=0
    (-3-x)(7-x)+(3-y)(-1-y)+(2-z)(12-z)=0

    A quadratic with 3 variables...seems impossible to solve, right?
    Well, have you started to wonder why they gave you l2?

    l2: r = (5j-7k) + t (i-2j+7k)

    Put it into parametric, and you get values for all x, y, and z on l2.

    x=0+t
    y=5-2t
    z=-7+7t

    You know that C is on l2, so its components must also follow these equations, so substitute these values in for x, y, and z. You end up with a quadratic with one variable: the parameter t.

    (-3-x)(7-x)+(3-y)(-1-y)+(2-z)(12-z)=0
    (-3-(0+t))(7-(0+t)) + ((3-(5-2t)(-1-(5-2t)) + (2-(-7+7t))(12-(-7+7t)) = 0
    (-3-t)(7-t) + (-2+2t)(-6+2t) + (9-7t)(19-7t) = 0
    -21 + -4t + t^2 + 12 + -16t + 4t^2 + 171 + -196t + 49t^2 = 0
    54t^2 - 216t + 162 = 0
    (54t + 162)(t-1) = 0
    54(t + 3)(t-1) = 0
    t = -3, 1
    (Note: If you couldn't find the common factor of 54, you could use that you already know one root of t; t=1 is one of the zeros because t=1 for the given C.)

    So the position vectors for C are (5j-7k) + t(i-2j+7k), t=1 and t=-3
    so the position vector for the C not given is (5j-7k) + (-3)(i-2j+7k) = (5j-7k)+(-3i+6j+21k) = -3i + 11j + 14k.

    iii) You should know either that the modulus of the cross product is the area of parallelogram created by two vectors as its diagonals, or know that |u cross v|=|u||v|sinC, where C is the angle between u and v.

    Thus, where u and v are the sides of the triangle/parallelogram, half the modulus of (u cross v) is the area of the triangle.

    Set u and v as two vectors whose tails start at one of the triangle's vertex (e.g. u = AB, v = AC) and find the cross product using the "determinant-of-a-3-by-3" method.
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    Re: Solomon Press C4 Paper D Question 8:Help please!
    Cross product:
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u=\begin{pmatrix}a\\b\\c\\ \end{pmatrix}

v=\begin{pmatrix}d\\e\\f\\ \end{pmatrix}



u \times v = \begin{vmatrix}i&j&k\\a&b&c\\d&e  &f\\ \end{vmatrix} = (bf-ce)i - (af-cd)j + (ae-bd)k = \begin{pmatrix}bf-ce\\cd-af\\ae-bd\\ \end{pmatrix}



\vert u \times v| = \sqrt{(bf-ce)^2 + (cd-af)^2 + (ae-bd)^2 }

    Oh yeah, since we know ACB is a right-angle, we can just use 1/2bh where b and h are |AC| and |BC|.
    |AC|=sqrt(20)=2sqrt(5), |BC|=sqrt(196)=14

    |AC||BC|=28(5^.5) => 1/2|AC||BC|=14(5^.5) => k=14
    Last edited by aznkid66; 21-06-2012 at 08:06.
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    Re: Solomon Press C4 Paper D Question 8:Help please!
    (Original post by aznkid66)
    Cross product:

    

u=\begin{pmatrix}a\\b\\c\\ \end{pmatrix}

v=\begin{pmatrix}d\\e\\f\\ \end{pmatrix}



u \times v = \begin{vmatrix}i&j&k\\a&b&c\\d&e  &f\\ \end{vmatrix} = (bf-ce)i - (af-cd)j + (ae-bd)k = \begin{pmatrix}bf-ce\\cd-af\\ae-bd\\ \end{pmatrix}



\vert u \times v| = \sqrt{(bf-ce)^2 + (cd-af)^2 + (ae-bd)^2 }

    Oh yeah, since we know ACB is a right-angle, we can just use 1/2bh where b and h are |AC| and |BC|.
    for integrating like sin3xcos3x or (secx+tanx)^2*




    can we use integration by parts?
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