T05 - EU Bloc Free Trade Pact
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Re: T05 - EU Bloc Free Trade PactBasically the economic argument has gone. The EU doesn't control free trade. Free trade is now worldwide as a result of this pact.(Original post by internetguru)
This is huge and means we can leave the EU without damaging the economy? -
Re: T05 - EU Bloc Free Trade PactGround breaking move I expect the house to immediately vote to leave the EU now.(Original post by toronto353)
Basically the economic argument has gone. The EU doesn't control free trade. Free trade is now worldwide as a result of this pact. -
Re: T05 - EU Bloc Free Trade PactNot exactly. The problem is that one of the EU countries vetoed this (we still don't know which one as they didn't give a reason), which means that this is a Pact, not a Treaty. As such it only includes 7 EU nations at the moment, so we would lose trade with the other 20 if we leave.(Original post by internetguru)
This is huge and means we can leave the EU without damaging the economy?
Our priority should be to seek to expand this Pact now. -
Re: T05 - EU Bloc Free Trade PactWell, we're still missing some 20 EU countries regrettably. And we still don't know how many countries will join, so its a bit early to conclude that its worldwide now.(Original post by toronto353)
Basically the economic argument has gone. The EU doesn't control free trade. Free trade is now worldwide as a result of this pact.
Plus the freedom of movement zone is still EU controlled, and as much as people may occasionally complain about immigrants (wrongly so by the way), the UK does benefit from it; think about British pensioners living in Spain for example. Or in fact any British person working in any EU country. -
Re: T05 - EU Bloc Free Trade PactNot necessarily. First of all, we don't know if it was an EU country which vetoed this. If it wasn't, then it's a treaty and legally applies to all member states.(Original post by stanlas)
Not exactly. The problem is that one of the EU countries vetoed this (we still don't know which one as they didn't give a reason), which means that this is a Pact, not a Treaty. As such it only includes 7 EU nations at the moment, so we would lose trade with the other 20 if we leave.
Our priority should be to seek to expand this Pact now.
If it's a treaty, then it applies to all member states and I'm hoping to look at the freedom of movement and see what we could do about that with regards to expanding it in much the same way.(Original post by stanlas)
Well, we're still missing some 20 EU countries regrettably. And we still don't know how many countries will join, so its a bit early to conclude that its worldwide now.
Plus the freedom of movement zone is still EU controlled, and as much as people may occasionally complain about immigrants (wrongly so by the way), the UK does benefit from it; think about British pensioners living in Spain for example. Or in fact any British person working in any EU country. -
Re: T05 - EU Bloc Free Trade PactWe will be working on getting more countries to sign this in the MUN once this House has ratified the Pact. The MHoC is the last country to ratify this Pact.(Original post by JPKC)
There won't ever be a "World Free Trade Zone" since only half of all countries need to join in order to benefit. -
Re: T05 - EU Bloc Free Trade PactWe'll also need to make that list at some point.(Original post by toronto353)
We will be working on getting more countries to sign this in the MUN once this House has ratified the Pact. The MHoC is the last country to ratify this Pact. -
Re: T05 - EU Bloc Free Trade PactWhy would we want political integration it isn't democratic and the people don't want it. If this passes all logical reasoning to remain in the EU is gone.(Original post by Rakas21)
Aye.
The treaty itself is a strong step forward in global economic unity and prosperity though i do hope that we are not forced with nations who are not democratic.
As for the EU, there is still the aspect of political intergration which motivates some to stay in. -
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Re: T05 - EU Bloc Free Trade PactNo - I agree with my Rt. Honourable friend.(Original post by xXedixXx)
Nay. Nations should have some flexibility to place restrictions on what's coming into their country.