Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper

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  1. MattyJo's Avatar
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by Muscovite)
    My friends brother goes to bath; it's average
    Loughborough is again only average save a bit of research and some ball games
    St. Andrews i'll give you! Forgot about that one...
    Bath is average? O_O
  2. Profesh's Avatar
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by TheJ0ker)
    Who cares? I thought the whole point of university was studying a subject you love to the highest level you can achieve, everyone has the right to do that. Although when I see so many people doing something like business at uni it makes me think something is slightly wrong. Do that many people really love business studies with a passion?
    Is this not the purpose of that venerable and oft-overlooked institution, the public library? To look at this thread you might be forgiven for thinking that universities held some kind of absolute monopoly on textbooks.
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
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    Is this not the purpose of that venerable and oft-overlooked institution, the public library? To look at this thread you might be forgiven for thinking that universities held some kind of absolute monopoly on textbooks.
    Yes silly me, reading a textbook is on par with the teaching at university, my mistake.
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by Muscovite)
    My friends brother goes to bath; it's average
    Loughborough is again only average save a bit of research and some ball games
    St. Andrews i'll give you! Forgot about that one...
    lol.
    Either you are a troll or you have no idea at all about UK universities.
    Also I suggest you look up the meaning of average, and then look at how Bath does in the rankings of UK universities.
  5. Profesh's Avatar
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by TheJ0ker)
    Yes silly me, reading a textbook is on par with the teaching at university, my mistake.
    No: but if education is your hobby, then there already exists a government-subsidised alternative which doesn't squander millions of pounds on academic programmes that are neither intellectually-rigorous nor practically useful. The idea that literally everyone should enjoy intensive tuition in the subject of their choosing until the age of 21 is, at best, outmoded, and at worst, quixotic.
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by mentlorientl)
    Read an interesting article which pretty much sums up my views:
    https://raceclassgenderetc.wordpress...iece-of-paper/

    What does everyone think? I think the sheer volume of undergraduates has de-valued university both in terms of job market prospects and teaching quality.
    Depends on your degree. Maths from Cambridge, PPE from Oxford, Economics from LSE or Computer Science from Imperial are immeasurably superior to Media at the University of East London or even Sociology/English/IT from Manchester/Bristol/Leeds etc.

    I'd say only about 30% of degrees are worth having, mainly in Science, whilst the rest are a joke.
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    Only have 1 A2 ...media studies grade D ...


    got 2 unconditional, 1 conditional and 1 rejection, only one of my choices involved media studies, give a **** about the prestige of the institution? do i ****, because once you start working in the real world no one is going to care that you went to some top uni if your useless at your job.


    neg away people
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by cid)
    Only have 1 A2 ...media studies grade D ...


    got 2 unconditional, 1 conditional and 1 rejection, only one of my choices involved media studies, give a **** about the prestige of the institution? do i ****, because once you start working in the real world no one is going to care that you went to some top uni if your useless at your job.


    neg away people
    Haaaaaa, I shall hold my breath and wait till you find a job which will pay enough for mortgage and your student loan
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    I'm not getting a student loan, I have a, well i suppose one would call it a scholarship of sorts, whatever you would call it, it matters not since i shall leave University debt free.

    Job wise, again, what bit of paper you have means little once the real work starts.
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by Muscovite)
    hmmmm.... journalism........
    Yes. What of it?
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    Perhaps in the eyes of some employers, but often that piece of paper is the only thing getting you onto training or a placement position. It depends entirely if it's relevant.

    My 1st class degree in Psychology is only a piece of paper if I want to go into certain areas that are not related, but I'd never get onto a Masters that forms the first of three years of Chartership training if I didn't have it. I'd never be able to get the assistant positions needed for me to go onto a Clinical doctorate after some years of experience.

    It's all relative.
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    I am profoundly sorry if I a recent ex-poly student have stolen your job. I mean my intellect parallels that of a piece of excrement you wipe from your shoe after all. How dare I go to a university that isn't top 10 then get offered a decent graduate job with a paid masters thrown in, or a course friend who achieved only DDE at A levels having just being accepted into a funded PhD at Liverpool.

    I'd best rip up this contract so someone who achieved better than my BBB at A levels because they are the better candidate right?
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by Gyo)
    I am profoundly sorry if I a recent ex-poly student have stolen your job. I mean my intellect parallels that of a piece of excrement you wipe from your shoe after all. How dare I go to a university that isn't top 10 then get offered a decent graduate job with a paid masters thrown in, or a course friend who achieved only DDE at A levels having just being accepted into a funded PhD at Liverpool.

    I'd best rip up this contract so someone who achieved better than my BBB at A levels because they are the better candidate right?
    Yeah, do that.
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by DaneCook)
    Yeah, do that.
    K, I'll be a street sweeper if I'm not too "over qualified"
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by TheWorldEndsWithMe)
    Just a 'for the record' thing. Not all ex-polys are crap and terrible and not worth going to. Most have something they're good at, even if it's just a specific subject area.

    Anyway. I would much rather have 80% of people going to universities - whether ex-poly or not - and have people generally be more educated than what we have now. (Seems to work in Finland, for women anyway - and before someone asks http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-11438140 ). A more educated workforce is a better workforce, in my opinion.



    Because you don't have to work hard to get into ex-polys. Right. So I'm aiming for ABB+ for an ex-poly without doing any work or trying hard?
    I agree, education should be for everyone...and should be subsidized..

    Many people often make a non-sense point that their tax money should not be used for someone else's art degree...But then again, the art student is also paying taxes for your non-sense economics degree isn't he?

    A better way to see this is that your taxes are being used to educate you!
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by Muscovite)
    oh nothing; nothing at all...
    Feel free to look down on a journalism degree when you're actually a journalist. Until then, pipe down.
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by WelshBluebird)
    lol.
    Either you are a troll or you have no idea at all about UK universities.
    Also I suggest you look up the meaning of average, and then look at how Bath does in the rankings of UK universities.
    Biased....
  18. WelshBluebird's Avatar
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by FinalMH)
    Biased....
    Or just realistic.
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    (Original post by WelshBluebird)
    Or just realistic.
    Or just defensive.
  20. 123maz's Avatar
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    Re: Your undergraduate degree is nothing more than a piece of paper
    the article gives some decent points, not really what I want to hear as an Alevel student
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