[SquaredCircle]

in a patriachal society, women do need spaces where they can avoid feeling like they're being oggled at and objectified. some women find running in front of men a nerve racking experience because it feels like they're being judged. this provides a safe space for them to run in comfort. until women aren't systematically objectified i don't see the problem with this.

[JoeBiden]

I wanted to do the race for life. What about all the guys out there who want who want to jog for freedom/their loved ones.

it's bullcrap.

[razzmatazz rach]

I had the same thought when I volunteered at it last year. I thought race for life was for breast cancer with all the pink and that was why but it is raising money for cancer research so everyone should be able to enter. I'm not sure how they are allowed to do it. Surely they would raise more money if they allowed men to enter too...

If it is because women don't like running in front of my because the men are going to me looking at them then they could have a separate men's only race but to be fair to most guys I doubt they would run the race for life just to stare at women, they can still go along and watch the women's only race for life so they can stare at women running there anyway. I assume most will be running to raise money in honor/memory of their loved ones with cancer.

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my HTC Desire S

[SquaredCircle]

(Original post by JoeBiden)
I wanted to do the race for life. What about all the guys out there who want who want to jog for freedom/their loved ones.

it's bullcrap.

there are many many many many other races that are mixed. you can run those races without making women who want a comfortable environment feel uncomfortable.

[slylee]

(Original post by SquaredCircle)
in a patriachal society, women do need spaces where they can avoid feeling like they're being oggled at and objectified. some women find running in front of men a nerve racking experience because it feels like they're being judged. this provides a safe space for them to run in comfort. until women aren't systematically objectified i don't see the problem with this.

But they allow men to watch them from the side lines? at least if the men are running they will be focused on something else.

[SquaredCircle]

(Original post by slylee)
But they allow men to watch them from the side lines? at least if the men are running they will be focused on something else.

i assumed from this

just a few sitting in chairs or cheering someone on.

that there were v few men in the crowd.

[slylee]

(Original post by SquaredCircle)
i assumed from this



that there were v few men in the crowd.

Does it matter? 10-20 guys staring as women run past in slow motion with boobs bouncing vs 100-200 men running trying to keep focused? If women are that insecure, maybe they need to take a reality to the head.

[SquaredCircle]

(Original post by slylee)
Does it matter? 10-20 guys staring as women run past in slow motion with boobs bouncing vs 100-200 men running trying to keep focused?

yes. 10-20 men is v few in the race compared to the number of men supporting in the mixed races.

[geetar]

Yeah, I think it's wrong to let only women race, as a) men can get breast cancer too, and b) they'll be affected if a female friend or relative develops it.

[kbilly]

This is just another example which proves how corrupt and twisted this society is.

[slylee]

(Original post by SquaredCircle)
yes. 10-20 men is v few in the race compared to the number of men supporting in the mixed races.

I still think its sexist to ban men just because we're apprantly sex starved hound dogs, if women assume men will be undressing them with their eyes, they need to grow up.

I can understand if it was for any other reason but cancer attacks anyone it wants, excluding a gender for a "comfortable enviroment" is bs.

[slylee]

(Original post by geetar)
Yeah, I think it's wrong to let only women race, as a) men can get breast cancer too, and b) they'll be affected if a female friend or relative develops it.

Well according to race for lifes website, it's for every type of cancer, which makes even less sense as to why men are banned.

[SquaredCircle]

(Original post by slylee)
I still think its sexist to ban men just because we're apprantly sex starved hound dogs, if women assume men will be undressing them with their eyes, they need to grow up.

I can understand if it was for any other reason but cancer attacks anyone it wants, excluding a gender for a "comfortable enviroment" is bs.

hahahahaha, a man telling how to tell a women how to feel in the face of systemic objectification and harassment. bit rich.

[geetar]

(Original post by slylee)
Well according to race for lifes website, it's for every type of cancer, which makes even less sense as to why men are banned.

Ah. Curiouser and curiouser...

[slylee]

(Original post by SquaredCircle)
hahahahaha, a man telling how to tell a women to feel in the face of systemic objectification and harassment. bit rich.

What is your problem? you're apprantly a man but sit on your high horse defending women that don't want to be defended in the first place. Obviously you grew up protected and sheltered and took it upon yourself to become the white knight women so desperately need.

[harufi]

Never realised it was female-only. Massive shame and makes no sense.

[Historophilia]

(Original post by LP-FTW)
get the flour! The eggs! The icing sugar! Now! Now! Now! Come'on, i'm not paying you guys for nothing! Hurry up, i've got to deliver these by monday!!

I'm waiting for inspiration to dawn. I need to get into my essay writing zen space.

[SquaredCircle]

(Original post by slylee)
What is your problem? you're apprantly a man but sit on your high horse defending women that don't want to be defended in the first place. Obviously you grew up protected and sheltered and took it upon yourself to become the white knight women so desperately need.

not at all. it's hilarious when i get accused of being a white knight. as if i haven't spent about a year reading feminist literature. grow up dude, stop psychoanalysing people over the internet.

i'm not defending women. i'm explaining why women want safe places. a lot of women do feel vulnerable around men when they go to the gym. when they run. etc. if you don't want to understand this that's your problem but it is what it is.

giving them a safe space to run, albeit with men scattered around the run, is not a bad thing.

[EleanorR]

(Original post by rlw31)
I really don't see what the controversy is. Marketing it this way has made it a very profitable event for the charity as it has galvanised people to raise money for the charity.

I agree with this. And whilst my femisit sisters may berate me for this, I'm pretty sure I'm ok with mild sexism (which is essentially what it is) if it's to raise money for a charity like cancer research. Tell me I'm wrong, but in the grand scheme of things, I think cancer trumps the chaps feeling a tad put out that they cannot don their dapper pink tweeds and go for a jolly good amble round the park with the dames.

[SquaredCircle]

(Original post by EleanorR)
I agree with this. And whilst my femisit sisters may berate me for this, I'm pretty sure I'm ok with mild sexism (which is essentially what it is) if it's to raise money for a charity like cancer research. Tell me I'm wrong, but in the grand scheme of things, I think cancer trumps the chaps feeling a tad put out that they cannot don their dapper pink tweeds and go for a jolly good amble round the park with the dames.

i love this so much.