[birdsong1]

(Original post by Inverse)
I look at the frequency of releases in comparison to my/other users' satisfaction with them.

The problem is (especially now that you're trying to measure "satisfaction") that your methodology is now very prone to cognitive bias. There are accurate ways to compare the deving of the two, but they:

1) Have to wait until the devving stabilizes (i.e. you don't make a judgment call when one is barely three weeks out).

2) Cost more time than is actually worth it.

(Original post by Inverse)
I did not imply that. I implied that there will be far more support for the One X in this regard.

Very well; this is also wrong, for the exact same reasoning. Game developers have to build for where the users (thus the money) are, period.

[Inverse]

(Original post by birdsong1)
The problem is (especially now that you're trying to measure "satisfaction") that your methodology is now very prone to cognitive bias. There are accurate ways to compare the deving of the two, but they:

1) Have to wait until the devving stabilizes (i.e. you don't make a judgment call when one is barely three weeks out).

2) Cost more time than is actually worth it.



Very well; this is also wrong, for the exact same reasoning. Game developers have to build for where the users (thus the money) are, period.

Of course it is prone to cognitive bias, but not just mine. There are methods of collecting information about how pleased a user is, which have been implemented and are in use. Your argument is fallacious in the sense that the stock ROMs on which both devices operate are not fully stable by any means. There are updates being pushed for both devices, and you will find that many custom ROM developers are creating more stable and less bloated alternatives.

Exactly, which is why the Google Play store exists for devices running variations of Android operating systems. I don't see any specialized apps or app store for the hugely successful Galaxy S2, let alone the S3, so your argument is redundant.

I see you've ignored my simple question. Do you own either of the devices? From your choice to exclude this question, I'm assuming you haven't owned either, which favours my arguments since I've owned both.

[birdsong1]

(Original post by Inverse)
Your argument is fallacious in the sense that the stock ROMs on which both devices operate are not fully stable by any means.

1) I never implied, or indeed mentioned anything about the stock ROM.

2) Even if so, this still would not validate your (now revealed to be incredibly subjective) data-collection methodology.

And furthermore, what you've just said reveals yet another systemic bias. Custom roms for the S3 can only be expected to be in the "beta" stage after this many weeks; of course you aren't going to be as "satisfied" with them. As I said already, one has to wait for development to stabilize, before even attempting such a comparison.

(Original post by Inverse)
I see you've ignored my simple question. Do you own either of the devices? From your choice to exclude this question, I'm assuming you haven't owned either, which favours my arguments since I've owned both.

I didn't respond because this was just a bad recourse for failed arguments. I don't actually need to own any device to find that the S3 is made of polycarbonate, or see that your method of counting devs is flawed, or that your reasoning about exclusive One X game development made little sense. Or, to observe the One X's lack of removable battery/sd card (a dealbreaker for some). Or, to determine that the One X's screen can indeed be considered better, but that the standards by which you were comparing screens don't actually make any sense.

I don't like it when people bring up red herrings.

[Inverse]

(Original post by birdsong1)
1) I never implied, or indeed mentioned anything about the stock ROM.

2) Even if so, this still would not validate your (now revealed to be incredibly subjective) data-collection methodology.

And furthermore, what you've just said reveals yet another systemic bias. Custom roms for the S3 can only be expected to be in the "beta" stage after this many weeks; of course you aren't going to be as "satisfied" with them. As I said already, one has to wait for development to stabilize, before even attempting such a comparison.




I didn't respond because this was just a bad recourse for failed arguments. I don't actually need to own any device to find that the S3 is made of polycarbonate, or see that your method of counting devs is flawed, or that your reasoning about exclusive One X game development made little sense. Or, to observe the One X's lack of removable battery/sd card (a dealbreaker for some). Or, to determine that the One X's screen can indeed be considered better, but that the standards by which you were comparing screens don't actually make any sense.

I don't like it when people bring up red herrings.

I didn't state that you did. I was informing you that the stock ROMs are in some cases less stable than some custom ROMs, since you're so fussy about their stability prior to consumers' "user satisfaction". You fail to understand many of my points. I was primarily attempting to assert that the H1X already has a larger amount of support and options, which may be important for some consumers to consider before purchasing the device.

Please explain how my methods of comparing the screens "do not make sense".

I was looking for an answer because it would give me some idea of how much a user experience (clearly none) you've had with either device. In the end it's all about how it performs in the real world on a day to day basis, since that's what people buy a phone for. You can type all you like, but if you haven't actually used either of them, (let alone owning them) you're at a disadvantage in this argument.

[Omar1994]

So which is better?

[Inverse]

(Original post by Omar1994)
So which is better?

HTC One X.

[Daniel_R]

There both great phones and its down to personal pref.

[HCDR.Jacob]

The HTC One X is awful in comparison. It has an awful sound chip (Realtek something or other) which produces much worse sound than the S3, despite the beats branding. #

The Sense UI has improved in 4.0 but is still much more resource hungry than other UIs, like the new TouchWiz on the S3.

If you want to root the HTC, the provide a crippled bootloader unlock in exchange for all the details they need to know not to repair your phone if it breaks. As for the S3, you just flash custom images and it's fine.

The PenTile matrix on the S3 screen really makes hardly any difference at this resolution. The HD Super AMOLED has much more vibrant colours, and deeper blacks than the SLCD2 on the One X, and the PenTile has no noticeable effect on test like it did on older phones like the original Galaxy S.

The battery on the S3 is better than that in the One X. Much better. And it's replaceable, so you can have a spare to swap in if it does run out and you don't have access to a charger.

The S3 has the memory card slot, which for me is essential. 32GB on the One X is nowhere near enough for me. I need expandable storage.

The Tegra 3 processor in the One X is a joke. It's quad core, yes, but Nvidia just make crap silicon. It's bested even by the dual core Snapdragon in the HTC One S. The Samsung Exynos 4412 processor blows all the competition out of the water here, without question.

I guess it's down to personal preference, but if your preference is the One X, then you're an idiot.

[EmilyAl]

(Original post by Inverse)
That's a great reason to automatically assume that a new phone which you've never used will "break", (you don't even define how your old phone "broke")
try making useful comments.

It's the best phone money can buy at the moment. It also costs less for almost double the amount of stock storage you will get on the S3.

Okay... It broke when the back button broke and then the touch screen was unresponsive...

[aalhassan1]

(Original post by HCDR.Jacob)
The HTC One X is awful in comparison. It has an awful sound chip (Realtek something or other) which produces much worse sound than the S3, despite the beats branding. #

The Sense UI has improved in 4.0 but is still much more resource hungry than other UIs, like the new TouchWiz on the S3.

If you want to root the HTC, the provide a crippled bootloader unlock in exchange for all the details they need to know not to repair your phone if it breaks. As for the S3, you just flash custom images and it's fine.

The PenTile matrix on the S3 screen really makes hardly any difference at this resolution. The HD Super AMOLED has much more vibrant colours, and deeper blacks than the SLCD2 on the One X, and the PenTile has no noticeable effect on test like it did on older phones like the original Galaxy S.

The battery on the S3 is better than that in the One X. Much better. And it's replaceable, so you can have a spare to swap in if it does run out and you don't have access to a charger.

The S3 has the memory card slot, which for me is essential. 32GB on the One X is nowhere near enough for me. I need expandable storage.

The Tegra 3 processor in the One X is a joke. It's quad core, yes, but Nvidia just make crap silicon. It's bested even by the dual core Snapdragon in the HTC One S. The Samsung Exynos 4412 processor blows all the competition out of the water here, without question.

I guess it's down to personal preference, but if your preference is the One X, then you're an idiot.

At The end of the day, for me, i really dont like the look of the s3. It doesnt matter what the specs are if i hate the look of the device. So if I cant get an s3 , what is left? I guess il have to get the htc one x

[Popppppy]

I love my one X. It's extremely sexy, the screen is great, the sound is great, it's so light and thin.
Only problems I have with it are that it can get very hot, and also the annoying "change language" button that appears on the keyboard when I'm texting and I inadvertently press it all the time and have to scroll back through all the languages.
The battery life isn't great, but it lasts my waking hours for 1 day so that's all I need.

[Inverse]

(Original post by Popppppy)
I love my one X. It's extremely sexy, the screen is great, the sound is great, it's so light and thin.
Only problems I have with it are that it can get very hot, and also the annoying "change language" button that appears on the keyboard when I'm texting and I inadvertently press it all the time and have to scroll back through all the languages.
The battery life isn't great, but it lasts my waking hours for 1 day so that's all I need.

You can go into keyboard settings and remove the "change language" button so it stays with the English keyboard only.

Are you using the stock ROM/kernel? It's not as optimised as some custom alternatives.

[Cressida]

(Original post by Inverse)
The RGB display on the One X is hugely better and has a higher density than the inferior Pentile display on the S3. Its screen is naturally brighter than the S3's because of this, so all you have to do to save a considerable amount of battery is turn the brightness down slightly. It displays white as white, whilst the S3 displays white with a blue tint. As I have explained many times, RGB displays mean that there are all three sub-pixels (red, blue and green) in each pixel, whilst there are two sub-pixels in each pixel in a Pentile display; meaning that it has to alternate to the third when necessary.

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The One X is cheaper. You can pick it up for £420 on Amazon with almost double the initial storage of the S3, (32GB description, but a few GB less in terms of usable storage) with the S3 costing £500 with 16GB storage. (I am aware that the S3 has expandable storage options)

The One X's Tegra 3 chipset unequivocally boasts the most developer support. Huge amounts of applications/games are being made and optimized especially for the Tegra 3 chipset. To emphasize the already existing "Tegra Zone" application for the device, Sony has just officially partnered with HTC and showed off the One X at a press conference. This means that there will now be an astronomical amount of gaming content coming to the One X. You will never find that happening for the S3's Exynos chipset.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNwiCZKK0cI

Its polycarbonate casing is far more durable than the S3's simple plastic material.

The S3's Touchwiz UI's, whilst completely subjective, is renowned to be inferior to the One X's Sense UI.

The One X has more support from other developers on forums such as XDA-Developers, with custom ROMs, themes and apps constantly being released for it.

There are just a few reasons as to why it is superior.

I have decided on the htc and signed my contract today. I accepted lower battery life and non expandable memory because the overall cost for the phone is lower than the s3 and i find the interface\htc sense really refreshing.

My phone will arrive on tuesday, and i wondered if you could give me more information on the phone, tips and advice on how best to set up the phone, advice on how to combat the battery issue and of course tell me all the best apps to download!

Oh and i've never handled a htc phone (though have experience with android) so would appreciate pointers on how to use and make the best of it!!

Ps. I'm asking you as you seem to post a lot in these tech forums and i read a lot of what you say as very unbiased and knowledgable!

[Inverse]

(Original post by Cressida)
I have decided on the htc and signed my contract today. I accepted lower battery life and non expandable memory because the overall cost for the phone is lower than the s3 and i find the interface\htc sense really refreshing.

My phone will arrive on tuesday, and i wondered if you could give me more information on the phone, tips and advice on how best to set up the phone, advice on how to combat the battery issue and of course tell me all the best apps to download!

Oh and i've never handled a htc phone (though have experience with android) so would appreciate pointers on how to use and make the best of it!!

Ps. I'm asking you as you seem to post a lot in these tech forums and i read a lot of what you say as very unbiased and knowledgable!

It's a good choice, both are great but I made the same decision as you.

You'd have to be a bit more specific with information, but for the other questions:

When you first boot it up there will be a set-up procedure which won't take you very long, it will just ask for basic things such as email/google accounts etc. It won't be difficult at all.

There's a handy app called JuiceDefender which will help extend battery life:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...atejuice&hl=en

Other than that, if you pull down from the top of the screen for the notification setting and tap the cog on the top right corner for settings, it would help to disable location services (when you don't need them) and auto-sync. Automatic screen brightness is fine, and I wouldn't tweak it at all.

There are a few apps which are my favourites, they are:

Flipboard: (news app)



doubleTwist: (media/music player)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...2lkUGxheWVyIl0.

Those are the two apps I mainly use on it, but Skype, Whatsapp, (lets you call/sms for free, provided you have internet access) I'm not an app-heavy user, but the Google Play store will show you all of the top paid/free apps and loads of different types of apps.

For media, you can just connect your phone to your laptop/pc then drag and drop the files, but there's a useful tool for this if you'd like:

http://www.htc.com/www/software/htc-sync/

In terms of accessories, I prefer not to use a screen protector, and use this case:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gadget-Giant...3588064&sr=8-2

If you want advice on other accessories, I can recommend you some different types of cases, screen protectors, pouches, etc.

I'm guessing you want to stay with the stock experience, but I am into modding and there are far better free software alternatives for the One X, but since there has not yet been a method to achieve S-Off (security off) for the device, I would recommend sticking to what you initially get.

If you want to ask anything else, go ahead, I have nothing important to do today.

[masjid]

(Original post by goldenfish)
I personally am going to get Galaxy S3, but, im wondering what your opinion is, considering each phone overall rather then focusing on one point such as camera or display.

HTC is better than Samsung galaxy ,,i think

[masjid]

(Original post by Popppppy)
I love my one X. It's extremely sexy, the screen is great, the sound is great, it's so light and thin.
Only problems I have with it are that it can get very hot, and also the annoying "change language" button that appears on the keyboard when I'm texting and I inadvertently press it all the time and have to scroll back through all the languages.
The battery life isn't great, but it lasts my waking hours for 1 day so that's all I need.

agree

[onda]

S3. The screen is gorgeous on full brightness and you can take an extra battery with you on the go unlike the htc one x

[charlie9872]

Galaxy nexus with jelly bean runs better than both of them and is a lot cheaper, just sayin'.

[sarahlousie]

Ive just been deciding between these two phones aswell, went with the s3 in the end.


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[hagrid's big toe]

I recently acquired the One X. It's grand enough, though the iffy non-replaceable battery does grate (apparently that gets better over time, but I don't imagine it'll ever be "good").

Had no intention of upgrading, but saw a cheap deal on the One S and couldn't resist, then noticed the exact same deal on the One X so thought I'd get that and, worst case, trade down to a One S. Stuck with the One X in the end. Personal opinion, but I would give the Samsung 2/10 for looks and the HTC a good 9/10. That, and the fact it was a lot cheaper means I don't really care if the S3 is a bit better to use and, looking at video reviews, it probably is a little bit. Had they been the same price, I'd probably have got the S3. The amazing screen and Beats Audio on the the One X are lovely little extras once you have them though, really really lovely.

Bottom line, I don't know many people with either who aren't satisfied with what they bought.