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Jews in the Muslim Armageddon-Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6985Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
According to this widely accepted and authentic hadith, during yomul qiyamah (end times) Muslims will slaughter worldwide Jewry. I feel that hateful hadiths like this one, which unfortunately seem to be widely taught, fuel the flames of Muslim antisemitism. One of the explanations for Israel's success and the establishment of a Jewish state on "Muslim land" is that the end times are fast approaching and that Allah is gathering all the Jews in one place so that they may be slaughtered.
This is quite despicable really. Some of these hadiths make mein kampf read like the UN charter of human rights. -
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Re: Jews in the Muslim ArmageddonEverything in the qu'ran is true 100% and cannot be questioned according to Muslims. Hadiths are not inerrant, but there are some which are considered "authentic" and they generally make up the backbone of the Islamic faith since the quran is relatively short. The hadith I quoted comes from the Saih Muslim collection, and it's highly trusted by the majority of Muslims of Sunni Muslims to be from the prophet.(Original post by Chow mein)
I'm not muslim but aren't a lot of the Hadiths supposed to be taken with a pinch of salt compared to the Koran? -
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Re: Jews in the Muslim Armageddon1) it's not my prediction 2) what does that have to do with anything? There's Muslims everywhere Jews are(Original post by AverageExcellence)
Well 100% of the worlds jews will never live in israel. Many are contented living elsewhere. So your prediction doesnt really have much baring -
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Re: Jews in the Muslim ArmageddonYou said that Israel is some pre-determined arrangement is islamic hadiths where jews are being gathered together to be taken out in out fowl swoop.(Original post by ExMuslim)
1) it's not my prediction 2) what does that have to do with anything? There's Muslims everywhere Jews are
And your not taking into account the 3rd parties where jews and muslims live, like the US and UK. Its not as if theyd stand idley by and let it happen.
And muslims had no real say in the matter of Isreal. Plus its army is much more powerful and advanced than its muslim neighbours.
The hadith says that the day of judgement will be near when muslim women take off their hijabs as well... its all bigotted rubbish -
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Re: Jews in the Muslim ArmageddonThis is the end times prophecy which i believe is when the Antichrist (dajjal) will wreak havoc with the earth's inhabitants and most of his followers will be Jews. They will start a war in which the muslims will kill the jews...(Original post by ExMuslim)
-Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6985
According to this widely accepted and authentic hadith, during yomul qiyamah (end times) Muslims will slaughter worldwide Jewry. I feel that hateful hadiths like this one, which unfortunately seem to be widely taught, fuel the flames of Muslim antisemitism. One of the explanations for Israel's success and the establishment of a Jewish state on "Muslim land" is that the end times are fast approaching and that Allah is gathering all the Jews in one place so that they may be slaughtered.
This is quite despicable really. Some of these hadiths make mein kampf read like the UN charter of human rights.
U should really know this being an 'ex muslim' or the least do the research -
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Re: Jews in the Muslim ArmageddonDon't you think this is at least a bit anti-Semitic?(Original post by Killuminati1989)
This is the end times prophecy which i believe is when the Antichrist (dajjal) will wreak havoc with the earth's inhabitants and most of his followers will be Jews. They will start a war in which the muslims will kill the jews...
U should really know this being an 'ex muslim' or the least do the research -
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Re: Jews in the Muslim Armageddon[QUOTE=AverageExcellence;38288156]You said that Israel is some pre-determined arrangement is islamic hadiths where jews are being gathered together to be taken out in out fowl swoop./QUOTE]
Ehh, I said that's one of the explanations Muslim clerics give for the military and economic success of the Jewish state. -
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Re: Jews in the Muslim ArmageddonYou'd be surprised at how much one can actually believe with years of brainwashing.(Original post by anonstudent1)
Lol and people actually believe this crap... -
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Re: Jews in the Muslim ArmageddonI sometimes wonder if its the same person.. But anyway best not to reply to any of them there hatred is clear and their prob just looking for a way to vent their anger(Original post by AkaJetson)
First t-ros, then ideas4life, now this dude *sigh* -
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Re: Jews in the Muslim Armageddoni dont think anti semitism has any precedent in matters of war, especially when according to hadith the jews (not all of them) will follow the antichrist in starting a war with in which the jews will be killed after Jesus has killed the antichrist.(Original post by ExMuslim)
Don't you think this is at least a bit anti-Semitic?Last edited by Killuminati1989; 23-06-2012 at 16:17. -
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Re: Jews in the Muslim ArmageddonThis hadith you quoted refers to when Dajjal or the anti-Christ gains power. According to Islamic sources, 70,000 Jews will follow him. Not ALL Jews. It obviouslt refers to the Jews that will cause chaos, havoc etc rather than every Jew. So basically, Muslims will fight the Jews that are following him and doing the bad stuff. Muslims will not fight EVERY JEW. I'm no expert. I'm just trying to look at this from different angles. If Muslims didn't like Jews and considered each Jew an enemy then why did the Mohammed marry a Jewish woman and why are Muslims given permission (in the Quran) to marry Jews ? And Muslims/Arabs can't really be "anti-semtitic" as Arabs consider themselves to be Semites too. Both groups come from Abraham. Cool.
