TSR Social Liberal Party
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyI have a question if lots of immigrants come in lowering the average wage to £10,000 like in Eastern Europe will you start taxing earnings under £12,000 or face bankruptcy?(Original post by Addzter)
Well, we don't have firm policies on any yet because I'd like all party members to come up with them collaboratively, but I can give you an overview of what they'd probably be like.
Drugs: Complete legalisation of soft drugs, (certainly cannabis, and perhaps other hallucinogenics like magic mushrooms and LSD) taxed and regulated in the same was as alcohol and tobacco; decriminalisation of the possession of all other recreational drugs.
Immigration: If you can prove that you're likely to be of benefit to Britain's economy and/or society than you can come in. Highly skilled immigrants will be given preference over low-skilled workers who aim to be employed in jobs that could easily be filled by British workers.
Free speech: I don't know what you want me to say here. I'm in favour of it, if that's what you're asking. The only limitations to it would be slander, libel, etc.
Foreign policy: On the whole: anti-war, not-interventionist. Selling arms of any kind to undemocratic, repressive regimes will end.
Tax: Anyone earning under £12,000 P.A. will not need to pay any income tax, companies who do not commit to reducing their carbon emissions will face a new tax, a new (small) Robin Hood tax on financial transactions like bonds, currencies, stocks, etc. -
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyIf the average wage fell we'd perhaps look into taxing lower incomes.(Original post by internetguru)
I have a question if lots of immigrants come in lowering the average wage to £10,000 like in Eastern Europe will you start taxing earnings under £12,000 or face bankruptcy? -
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyI thought your party protected low income earners? We Green Party pledge to never tax earnings under £12,000 and prevent the average wage dropping by limiting immigration.(Original post by Addzter)
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyOh I guess you win then.(Original post by internetguru)
I thought your party protected low income earners? We Green Party pledge to never tax earnings under £12,000 and prevent the average wage dropping by limiting immigration.
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyWhere's the evidence that increasing immigration lowers average wages? would love to see it.(Original post by internetguru)
I thought your party protected low income earners? We Green Party pledge to never tax earnings under £12,000 and prevent the average wage dropping by limiting immigration. -
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyWelcome aboard.(Original post by zedbrar)
Oh yes, I recieved an email regarding this the day before today
I'd be interested in joining
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyI apologies if i have given that impression.(Original post by davidmarsh01)
I also notice that Rakas has consistently ignored every post I've spoken to him in apart from PMQs
The main reason i rarely respond to your comments is because i am not a fan of one line posts and the only response to yours in this case was 'yes, indeed' which is a bit pointless.
The only other time i recall you wanting me to say something is when you have accused me of not supporting your leadership (i complemented Tophat's contribution in recent months and your next post was along the lines of 'how rude, as if it was all Tophat).
There are of course members i have regular contact with but i am as willing to talk to you as anybody else, you need only strike an actual conversation topic. -
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyShould in not be based on a percentage? So for example, would it not be better to adjust it each year so that the bottom 20% earners do not need to pay income tax. That way, any wage flucatuations can be taken easily into account.(Original post by Addzter)
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyAll the western countries with less immigration have higher average wages.(Original post by Puritan)
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyThat's a fantastic idea actually. I'm not sure how we'd calculate it (not good at maths, come at me bro(Original post by zedbrar)
Should in not be based on a percentage? So for example, would it not be better to adjust it each year so that the bottom 20% earners do not need to pay income tax. That way, any wage flucatuations can be taken easily into account.) but Wikipedia says the lowest 25% of wage earners earn £10,300 or less, so perhaps that could be our cutoff rate, or 30%.
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyAre you calculating these wages by their figure as before of after tax? They may have higher wages, but they may also suffer from higher living costs.(Original post by internetguru)
All the western countries with less immigration have higher average wages.
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Re: TSR Social Liberal Party(Original post by Addzter)
Well, we don't have firm policies in any of these areas yet because I'd like all party members to come up with them collaboratively, but I can give you an overview of what they'd probably be like.
Drugs: Complete legalisation of soft drugs, (certainly cannabis, and perhaps other hallucinogenics like magic mushrooms and LSD) taxed and regulated in the same way as alcohol and tobacco; decriminalisation of the possession of all other recreational drugs.
Immigration: If you can prove that you're likely to be of benefit to Britain's economy and/or society than you can come in. Highly skilled immigrants will be given preference over low-skilled workers who aim to be employed in jobs that could easily be filled by British workers.
Free speech: I don't know what you want me to say here. I'm in favour of it, if that's what you're asking. The only limitations to it would be slander, libel, etc.
Foreign policy: On the whole: anti-war, non-interventionist. Selling arms of any kind to undemocratic, repressive regimes will end.
Tax: Anyone earning under £12,000 P.A. will not need to pay any income tax, companies who do not commit to reducing their carbon emissions will face a new tax, a new (small) Robin Hood tax on financial transactions like bonds, currencies, stocks, etc.
I agree completely with all of that. -
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyWhat can I say, I tried more than anyone and warned this needed to be dealt with immediately a week ago. But no not only has the sod stabbed Morgsie in the back and caused trouble for us internally he now is using the opportunism to drag our members off. If only more of you would of listened...(Original post by Mazzini)
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartySo you don't think there should be restrictions on free speach(Original post by internetguru)
So do except I believe there should be no restrictions on free speech at all. Yet some how I am labelled a right wing authoritarian...
but other people will lable you authoritarian right ...
freedom of speach isn't the sole deciding factor, by a long way.
What views do you hold that people would view as being authoritarian? -
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Re: TSR Social Liberal PartyYou simply tell Addzter that you'd like to sign up. In order for the party to be formed, you need to actually debate and participate so that you can convince the Speaker and admins that the party is viable.
Do you want to sign up?
I'll just stick your username in the OP. 
