[Myotherone]

We should form the party and then have an election for leader

[Metrobeans]

(Original post by ak137)
Whats the status for this party?

It's under review. I want to talk this over with the moderator before making further comments. In the meantime, I would suggest that members contribute positively to the MHoC, whether that is through debating bills and motions, or submitting your own petitions.

[blueray]

4 more members and we have a party I will be leader if that's fine with everyone?

[ak137]

(Original post by blueray)
4 more members and we have a party I will be leader if that's fine with everyone?

Let's make it fair: Everyone who wants to be leader has to put their name forward and we'll have an election

[blueray]

(Original post by ak137)
Let's make it fair: Everyone who wants to be leader has to put their name forward and we'll have an election

Great good idea as always AK Pm me or put your name and we will vote

[Metrobeans]

If this party was to form, I would be the administrator until a leader had been elected.


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[eff01]

Why should developing nations reduce their CO2 levels when developed economies themselves have failed to address the issue successfully? Surely it is wrong to ask developing economies to conduct such tasks when other economies themselves have not signed up to any major CO2 reducing pledge (US hasn't even ratified Kyoto and the Denmark carbon conference was a failure).

[blueray]

(Original post by eff01)
Why should developing nations reduce their CO2 levels when developed economies themselves have failed to address the issue successfully? Surely it is wrong to ask developing economies to conduct such tasks when other economies themselves have not signed up to any major CO2 reducing pledge (US hasn't even ratified Kyoto and the Denmark carbon conference was a failure).

I will explain all this in detail later, but in brief, we will tackle our own before we tell others And as for the latter, we all have a responsibility, once those resources are gone, they wont come back, then we are in a serious dilemma.

[eff01]

If the UK cut its CO2 levels significantly and fully became a green economy, what impact would this move have on global world CO2 levels?

[Myotherone]

(Original post by eff01)
If the UK cut its CO2 levels significantly and fully became a green economy, what impact would this move have on global world CO2 levels?

It would have very little impact but in creating a green economy we would create jobs and lower unemployment, we would remove our reliance on fossil fuels, this having to rely less on the Middle East

[internetguru]

(Original post by Myotherone)
It would have very little impact but in creating a green economy we would create jobs and lower unemployment, we would remove our reliance on fossil fuels, this having to rely less on the Middle East

How much would it cost implement and how would it affect the prices of energy bills for an ordinary citizen?

[Myotherone]

(Original post by internetguru)
How much would it cost implement and how would it affect the prices of energy bills for an ordinary citizen?

The honest answer is that i do not know, in the long term we would gain more from doing it, in the short term it might cost us money and thats the blatant truth.

As for your second question, in the long run it will go down i would imagine as we wouldnt have to import much

[eff01]

(Original post by Myotherone)
It would have very little impact but in creating a green economy we would create jobs and lower unemployment, we would remove our reliance on fossil fuels, this having to rely less on the Middle East

So If it's going create an insubstantial impact on the world, why should we bother? The fact of the matter is, you can only truly reduce CO2 emissions if the whole world that includes every single country collectively reduces emissions and as that is not going to happen, this climate change issue will not be resolved (sad reality).

Also what is the green party's views on reducing the deficit. What would you cut? Or do you believe we do not need to cut?

[Myotherone]

(Original post by eff01)
So If it's going create an insubstantial impact on the world, why should we bother? The fact of the matter is, you can only truly reduce CO2 emissions if the whole world that includes every single country collectively reduces emissions and as that is not going to happen, this climate change issue will not be resolved (sad reality).

Also what is the green party's views on reducing the deficit. What would you cut? Or do you believe we do not need to cut?

Okay don't do anything you could say, just let the world collapse, but one country succeeding with green technologies could persuade others to follow suit and thus create a chain of countries doing it and thus that could make the difference.

As for the deficit, ill be honest with you, I'm not sure of the exact policy on the deficit, but i know the Green Party want to pump £44bn into creating jobs and infrastructure and they want to target the bankers pay

[stanlas]

Do you really think that this party is really needed given that we have an EU wide carbon tax on TSR, which is designed to reduce CO2 emissions? And some plans to expand it to other countries as well

[internetguru]

(Original post by Myotherone)
Okay don't do anything you could say, just let the world collapse, but one country succeeding with green technologies could persuade others to follow suit and thus create a chain of countries doing it and thus that could make the difference.

As for the deficit, ill be honest with you, I'm not sure of the exact policy on the deficit, but i know the Green Party want to pump £44bn into creating jobs and infrastructure and they want to target the bankers pay

You shouldn't commit to the biggest investment project for years in the hopes some countries maybe wanting to do it too.

This is why I should have been left in charge I had answers to all these questions.

[eff01]

(Original post by Myotherone)
Okay don't do anything you could say, just let the world collapse, but one country succeeding with green technologies could persuade others to follow suit and thus create a chain of countries doing it and thus that could make the difference.

As for the deficit, ill be honest with you, I'm not sure of the exact policy on the deficit, but i know the Green Party want to pump £44bn into creating jobs and infrastructure and they want to target the bankers pay

And what if you do not succeed? Wasted billions on a scheme that has had limited impact on reducing CO2 levels and countries have not followed. The Green Party argument really does come to an end.

[blueray]

(Original post by internetguru)
World population decline would mean more resources for the people. If our population did begin to decline then the average wealth would increase.

No it would mean that your resoucres are not fully expolited in a green way, which would leave the ecomony worse off.

(Original post by eff01)
So If it's going create an insubstantial impact on the world, why should we bother? The fact of the matter is, you can only truly reduce CO2 emissions if the whole world that includes every single country collectively reduces emissions and as that is not going to happen, this climate change issue will not be resolved (sad reality).

Also what is the green party's views on reducing the deficit. What would you cut? Or do you believe we do not need to cut?

It does create an impact, because it's developed countries like ours that contribute so much especially in terms of eco foot print.
We would be a flagship for the entire world. They would follow, as they know they can benefit from the green sector.

For the 2nd part I will ask all the members first, I want this is represent all our views, not just mine

[blueray]

(Original post by stanlas)
Do you really think that this party is really needed given that we have an EU wide carbon tax on TSR, which is designed to reduce CO2 emissions? And some plans to expand it to other countries as well

You actually believe countries follow that?

[stanlas]

(Original post by blueray)
You actually believe countries follow that?

Well, all 27 EU countries have a carbon tax of 15 euros per ton of CO2 now, set to rise to 30 euros (actually, I think that one or two temporary exceptions were made for Poland and a couple of other poorer EU nations)