First Year Law results
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Re: First Year Law resultsI got a first...exactly 70%, just scraped it. Before they had crappy facilities as well, but now they added another small computer lab. Some of the lecturers tend to screw you over as well.(Original post by zaliack)
Grats! If you don't mind me asking, what was your classification?
ITS IMPROVING!?! What the hell was it like before then!?
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Re: First Year Law resultsWell done! What are your plans now? :P The worst lecturer I've had for marking so far is Marriott. She managed to give someone an 8% for public law!(Original post by Ben_Dover)
I got a first...exactly 70%, just scraped it. Before they had crappy facilities as well, but now they added another small computer lab. Some of the lecturers tend to screw you over as well.
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Re: First Year Law resultsThanks!! lol 8%. She gave me 50% in my coursework, but i managed to get 70% in the exam...this was when exam:coursework weighting was 80%:20%. She's also unapproachable and comes across rude. I'm taking a gap year to see how it goes since i haven't secured a training contract. If i can't find a job then i might do masters or phd.(Original post by zaliack)
Well done! What are your plans now? :P The worst lecturer I've had for marking so far is Marriott. She managed to give someone an 8% for public law!
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Re: First Year Law resultsThe worst thing is she only uses the overhead projector, and her handbook has very little information on it! I spent all her lectures just typing up every single word she said. She kicked an entire tutorial group out once, kept insulting us saying we never read Jackson, and kept telling someone that their opinion was wrong! Not looking forward to her for admin law next year(Original post by Ben_Dover)
Thanks!! lol 8%. She gave me 50% in my coursework, but i managed to get 70% in the exam...this was when exam:coursework weighting was 80%:20%. She's also unapproachable and comes across rude. I'm taking a gap year to see how it goes since i haven't secured a training contract. If i can't find a job then i might do masters or phd.
Are you planning to do a placement year?
Yeah, I'm hoping to do my year at the Guildford Chambers, seems like a nice place. Did you do a placement year?
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Re: First Year Law resultsShe loves admin law...especially locus standi. She has even written an article on it, which will be in the suggested reading. Her lectures were unbelievably boring...my notes were hardly over a page long.(Original post by zaliack)
The worst thing is she only uses the overhead projector, and her handbook has very little information on it! I spent all her lectures just typing up every single word she said. She kicked an entire tutorial group out once, kept insulting us saying we never read Jackson, and kept telling someone that their opinion was wrong! Not looking forward to her for admin law next year
Yeah, I'm hoping to do my year at the Guildford Chambers, seems like a nice place. Did you do a placement year?
I didn't do a placement year...perhaps my biggest mistake. Placement year would've been useful, but i opted to take the quick route out. Have you got any contacts at guildford chambers? -
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Re: First Year Law resultsHopefully her love for it comes across in her lecturing abilities! I was thinking of just doing the quick route, but I suppose in this climate there's no rush to get out of Uni. Nope, just hoping with a good CV they'll accept me for a placement :P(Original post by Ben_Dover)
She loves admin law...especially locus standi. She has even written an article on it, which will be in the suggested reading. Her lectures were unbelievably boring...my notes were hardly over a page long.
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Re: First Year Law resultsWell good luck with the placement and the rest of your studies!!(Original post by zaliack)
Hopefully her love for it comes across in her lecturing abilities! I was thinking of just doing the quick route, but I suppose in this climate there's no rush to get out of Uni. Nope, just hoping with a good CV they'll accept me for a placement :P -
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Re: First Year Law resultsI had three courses in the last term, English Legal System, Contract Law, and Consumer Law. All three have a multiple choice assessment, all three had an essay (and ELS had two), and only Contract had a traditional written exam.(Original post by RobertWhite)
Hey guys, what are your exams like. Are they essay based/multiple choice etc...?
MCTs are a good way of picking up marks but I suppose in their defence they can be used to test all parts of the syllabus. In an exam where you pick three questions from twelve or whatever, there is obviously room to just revise only a small portion of the course and then question-spot. But in reality MCTs are easier than the other type of assessment imo. -
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Re: First Year Law resultsThanks, at what university?(Original post by Forum User)
I had three courses in the last term, English Legal System, Contract Law, and Consumer Law. All three have a multiple choice assessment, all three had an essay (and ELS had two), and only Contract had a traditional written exam.
MCTs are a good way of picking up marks but I suppose in their defence they can be used to test all parts of the syllabus. In an exam where you pick three questions from twelve or whatever, there is obviously room to just revise only a small portion of the course and then question-spot. But in reality MCTs are easier than the other type of assessment imo.
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Re: First Year Law resultsI've never heard of mcts in law before - is this a bpp thing? Can imagine would be hard...(Original post by Forum User)
I had three courses in the last term, English Legal System, Contract Law, and Consumer Law. All three have a multiple choice assessment, all three had an essay (and ELS had two), and only Contract had a traditional written exam.
MCTs are a good way of picking up marks but I suppose in their defence they can be used to test all parts of the syllabus. In an exam where you pick three questions from twelve or whatever, there is obviously room to just revise only a small portion of the course and then question-spot. But in reality MCTs are easier than the other type of assessment imo.
Robertwhite - for my degree, papers were usually divided into two, part o e essays, part two problem questions where you are given a scenario and and answer as if you are giving a client advice. Modules that were less doctrinal were usually essays only (things like jurisprudence).
Anyway, off topic - good luck first years
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Re: First Year Law resultsI don't think it's solely a BPP thing, I believe some other universities have them as well.(Original post by flying plum)
I've never heard of mcts in law before - is this a bpp thing? Can imagine would be hard...
As regards them being hard, you could certainly devise an MCT that is of comparable difficulty to any other type of exam, the idea behind testing the whole syllabus rather than allowing question spotting is a good one. However on the flip side there is the issue that they are pretty much just memory tests, and obviously since only four answers are given and you know one is correct you can often narrow it down to a 'coinflip'. Even if you don't know a single answer for 'sure', if you can eliminate two possibilities you are going to get 50% on average, so you don't need to be 'certain' of very much to get up to 60% for a 2:1 or 70% for a first
Our written assessments are very weighted toward problem question as well which is unusual from what I've seen. There are no essay questions at all in the first year (apart from in subjects where problem questions would make no sense such as Jurisprudence). There are essay questions in 2nd and 3rd year exams. However we have an assessed essay (or more than one) for every course which is a 2500-word coursework type of deal. I understand that a lot of unis don't have assessed coursework as such and rely solely on the traditional 3-hour exam, at least for most courses.
I like the idea of testing through these three modes of assessment, (MCT, coursework essay and traditional written exam), but I suppose in practice it is slightly easier to get a higher mark than it would be if the assessment was wholly a written exam.
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Re: First Year Law resultsI would have thought this all reflected the fact that BPP is primarily a place that teaches professional qualifications. I think they MCTs on the LPC as well, though I incorrectly be remembering being told that.(Original post by Forum User)
I don't think it's solely a BPP thing, I believe some other universities have them as well.
As regards them being hard, you could certainly devise an MCT that is of comparable difficulty to any other type of exam, the idea behind testing the whole syllabus rather than allowing question spotting is a good one. However on the flip side there is the issue that they are pretty much just memory tests, and obviously since only four answers are given and you know one is correct you can often narrow it down to a 'coinflip'. Even if you don't know a single answer for 'sure', if you can eliminate two possibilities you are going to get 50% on average, so you don't need to be 'certain' of very much to get up to 60% for a 2:1 or 70% for a first
Our written assessments are very weighted toward problem question as well which is unusual from what I've seen. There are no essay questions at all in the first year (apart from in subjects where problem questions would make no sense such as Jurisprudence). There are essay questions in 2nd and 3rd year exams. However we have an assessed essay (or more than one) for every course which is a 2500-word coursework type of deal. I understand that a lot of unis don't have assessed coursework as such and rely solely on the traditional 3-hour exam, at least for most courses.
I like the idea of testing through these three modes of assessment, (MCT, coursework essay and traditional written exam), but I suppose in practice it is slightly easier to get a higher mark than it would be if the assessment was wholly a written exam.
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Re: First Year Law resultsI'm sure that is at least partly the reason, the LL.B. is taught at the same campus and by mostly the same staff as the GDL so there will be some overlap with that. The LPC and BPTC are taught elsewhere in London and by different staff, but it must still have some influence.(Original post by flying plum)
I would have thought this all reflected the fact that BPP is primarily a place that teaches professional qualifications. I think they MCTs on the LPC as well, though I incorrectly be remembering being told that.Last edited by Forum User; 27-06-2012 at 13:01.
ITS IMPROVING!?! What the hell was it like before then!?
