Can short people be as good in fights?
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Re: Can short people be as good in fights?
Weight is more important than height. Anyway,in street fighting the most important thing is to be an aggressive mother****er. No rules whatsoever. This means spitting, biting, stamping, kicking in the nuts etc... One last thing - if you know how to punch properly you can knockout pretty much anyone with one punch if they're not expecting it. Most inexperienced fighters who think they are tough will come up to you with their hands down by their sides trying to get in your face and saying things like "You wanna start huh - come on than innit i'll knock you out". There is no code of honor in such situations - just sucker punch them in the chin or headbutt them lol.
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Re: Can short people be as good in fights?Don't little guys from thailand basically dominate kickboxing or am i missing something?(Original post by Classical Liberal)
Like if it was kickboxing or something, the taller person is going to pwn.
muay thai and all that... -
Re: Can short people be as good in fights?Do they?(Original post by kingkongjaffa)
Don't little guys from thailand basically dominate kickboxing or am i missing something?
muay thai and all that...
I don't really know. My instructor was a pretty great kickboxer in his day, and he is tall. But yeah, I don't really have any facts to hand. -
Re: Can short people be as good in fights?this made me laugh so much ................. happens so much in wrestling(Original post by + polarity -)
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Re: Can short people be as good in fights?MT, like almost all combat sport has weight classes - although granted, in Thailand there are fewer of them due to a general homogeniety of fighters.(Original post by kingkongjaffa)
Don't little guys from thailand basically dominate kickboxing or am i missing something?
muay thai and all that... -
Re: Can short people be as good in fights?Although this person is coming across as a bit of a fool, there is considerable truth in what he says. The greatest determinant of success in fighting is a fighting mentality. Someone used to fighting and physical confrontation will almost always prevail over someone who is not - regardless of most other factors. Hence, a kungfool or a chunner will probably prevail over an untrained regular person as they have a quantum of training and "sparring". On the other hand, a rugby player would most likely prevail over the chunner. Not due to any physical size or technique, but due to their mental attitude toward aggression and confrontation.(Original post by stefl14)
Weight is more important than height. Anyway,in street fighting the most important thing is to be an aggressive mother****er. No rules whatsoever. This means spitting, biting, stamping, kicking in the nuts etc... One last thing - if you know how to punch properly you can knockout pretty much anyone with one punch if they're not expecting it. Most inexperienced fighters who think they are tough will come up to you with their hands down by their sides trying to get in your face and saying things like "You wanna start huh - come on than innit i'll knock you out". There is no code of honor in such situations - just sucker punch them in the chin or headbutt them lol.
As to the original question - it depends on "all else being equal". If all else is equal, the small person will almost always lose. If the small person is more aggressive and better trained (and not in kung fu), that small person will probably prevail.
I remember a small guy (under 4' - so I suppose medically he was a dwarf) who was mega strong and was a Judo 3rd Dan. Because of his height, he was always in low weight classes and his major technique was kata-guruma, which he was really good at. -
Re: Can short people be as good in fights?Those skinny thai kids would practically smash anyone up. on average they're 5ft5 and above/ Their strength is also unbelievable, from years of conditioning and clinching.(Original post by kingkongjaffa)
Don't little guys from thailand basically dominate kickboxing or am i missing something?
muay thai and all that...
A torque from a muay thai kick has the same force as a baseball bat swung hard from the end, enough to break your ribs, leg bones or cause internal bleeding. Not to mention a thai boxers' shin has been conditioned to the point where it is as hard as a baseball bat anyway
would definitely not want to get in a ring with those crazies. -
Re: Can short people be as good in fights?
My ninjutsu instructor is 5'2 and a 13th Dan, hes a bloody amazing fighter. Ive never seen him beaten in a scrap.
Im 5'1 and there are two other girls in the martial art shorter than me, and none of us find it a disadvantage, in fact i find it easier to fight the bigger guys as it is easy to use their weight and strength against them. As for untrained females, its been several years since i was one, but i can tell you that a willingness to fight and hurt someone will usually do much more than hight/weight etc. Not many people are willing to seriously hurt others.
But like others have said, it is best not to fight whenever possible. -
Re: Can short people be as good in fights?Have to say I disagree. As a large human myself (6 foot 2 and 102 kilogram) that level of size gives you an unprecedented advantage over normal size humans. The ability to bring more size, mass and strength into play, combined with a greater reach will negate any trivial (if any) speed advantage a small person may have.(Original post by DontJudge)
Taller, bigger people are much slower at fighting.
Smaller, are light and quick on their feet.
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Re: Can short people be as good in fights?I wanna watch the fight!(Original post by almosttrue)
Could a small short female (like 5ft height) be stronger/beat the average bigger female in a fight do you think? Or does height have everything to do with it? Assuming there has been no self defence training..
make a video
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Re: Can short people be as good in fights?You do realise there is a difference between MT and kickboxing right? In terms of Muay Thai, there have been many top level competiton where 'weight category' was only a loose requirement or not enforced at all, such as the ratchadamnoen tournements. The muay thai guys generally murdered the heavier kickboxing guys from europe and us(Original post by Classical Liberal)
Do they?
I don't really know. My instructor was a pretty great kickboxer in his day, and he is tall. But yeah, I don't really have any facts to hand.
youll have to take a lot of what people post on this thread with a pinch of salt about fighting, the closest many have come is youtube or the movies.
But the factual points that can be made are - height related factors, if any, would depend on fighting styles and affect speed, reach and how easy the head is to target typically in upright striking - strength, flexibility and maneoverability in terms of grappling/ground styles
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skill /ability and technical knowhow is more likely to be more important than most physical attributes
there are lkely to be good and bad examples of fighters in varying heights, for example mike tyson is regarded as one of the all time great heavyweights and regularly destroyed guys 5 plus inches taller than himself.
martial arts styles often lend themselves to assisting the smaller guy to bring down the larger opponent.Last edited by Indo-Chinese Food; 11-07-2012 at 04:40.
but in all seriousness just remember that the bigger they are the harder they fall.
