[Empire08]

(Original post by Steevee)
Damn those rich, creating jobs and adding value to society. Clearly they should be the target of our scorn, never mind the people stealing wealth from the State whilst contributing nothing to it...

They don't give a rats ass about creating jobs. The only thing they care about is creating more profit.

Do they care about how they obtain that profit? No. They will give you less pay, worse conditions or better yet export your job elsewhere if it means more profit. Hell, if dumping toxic waste into our rivers wasn't illegal, they would do it. All in the pursuit of profit. They take what they can and give nothing back.

[ProofNotTruth]

(Original post by Aspiringlawstudent)
Why should anyone be compelled to support someone they have no connection whatsoever to?

What right does anyone except myself have to the money I earn?

You sound as if you're heading towards the bright lights of the magic circle, I assume by your views and username?

You're not cut out for legal aid work or any contact with the human race, that's for sure.

In that case, good luck. Try not to have a heart attack at 40.

[ForKicks]

(Original post by badcheesecrispy)
So basically, because they are rich its ok for them to bypass tax and not pay the amount they are supposed to?

What about a person whos paying 20% or 30% tax, should they get this luxury too or do they have to carry on paying full tax, as they are lesser and should be treated worse as they dont earn as much?

In this case, why dont we just have a set tax rate of say £20,000, anyone earning that has to give all their income, same as anyone earning less, someone earning say £25000 would then be left with a huge £5000 left to last them all year. serves them right for not earning enough, they should now have to live on JSA rate. And millionaires can too give this and still be rich rich rich that would make you happy wouldnt it?

Another silly young person who doesnt have the slightest clue about paying tax or life in general

to say most of here are 16-17, let me tell you something- You, at this age, are CLUELESS about these issues

No, it is just your choice of words You say that they don't pull their weight in society. That is a load of bull****, as even paying 3% they would be pulling more weight than most individuals in the population

Fixed sum of tax wouldn't work and is beyond stupid , but a flat rate could. E.g. 25% for everyone past a threshold rate. That's regularly debated though!

Actually I am not saying that millionaires shouldn't be taxed. I am saying if you want to make more money from them, you need a different system.

MASSIVE assumption about my age, lol.

[ForKicks]

(Original post by badcheesecrispy)
Wow, where are all these jobs the rich have created?

Seriously?

[ForKicks]

(Original post by Empire08)
They don't give a rats ass about creating jobs. The only thing they care about is creating more profit.

Their motive is irrelevant. The fact is, they do create jobs. It seems you want an impossible society where everyone is selfless and not driven by self-interest.

[Scumbaggio]

I would have more respect for Cameron if the planned changes were not ideological.

[Steevee]

(Original post by badcheesecrispy)
Wow, where are all these jobs the rich have created?

I must be so stupid to have missed this huge influx of jobs and carried on presuming that theres 5 times more unemployed than jobs in this country...Oh well, must be me

Keep ignoring the fact that instead of creating jobs and helping people back to work the tories are actually putting more people on JSA and also putting the most vulnerable in society into further poverty

Look around you. The owners of Topshop, Vodafone and lots of other companies pay minimal tax, and yet they provide a great many jobs

Yeah, how dare they revaluate the bloated and usustainable welfare State created by New Labour, how is it possible that job creation has been slow during a Eurozone meltdown. Those damned Tories eh?

[badcheesecrispy]

(Original post by Steevee)
Look around you. The owners of Topshop, Vodafone and lots of other companies pay minimal tax, and yet they provide a great many jobs

Yeah, how dare they revaluate the bloated and usustainable welfare State created by New Labour, how is it possible that job creation has been slow during a Eurozone meltdown. Those damned Tories eh?

Whilst paying a pittance so that their workers need to claim benefits on top to live, whilst avoiding tax and hoarding billions in off shore bank accounts

yeah, right

[Steevee]

(Original post by badcheesecrispy)
Whilst paying a pittance so that their workers need to claim benefits on top to live, whilst avoiding tax and hoarding billions in off shore bank accounts

yeah, right

Yeah, damn them paying the government mandated minimum wage, and not making their business a charity, who the hell do they think they are eh? And the owners of the business, not giving away half their money to an already ungrateful public whilst not using any of the services that tax pays for, they're the real criminals, I mean sure, they make the jobs, stimulate the economy and whatnot, but if they don't also give up half the money they earn, why they're no better than Hitler!

[Newerfield]

I'll just leave this here:

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/vo...lock-sue-marsh