Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.
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Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-18594692
Apparently 70% of people who did a survey in China believe that women play a big part of whether they are sexually harassed or not. It follows the broadcast of a picture of a very seethrough dress worn by a Chinese woman.
So the Chinese think that that women should "cherish their bodies" and not dress so provocatively as to avoid being sexually harassed.
What we must make the difference of however, is women who dress lightly (as to avoid overheating) and women who abuse the opportunity to dress provocatively (as to attract the males they want). Ofcourse, women are entitled to dress as they want, but females dressing provocatively shows a disregard for their own safety.
Males will act in their primal nature, we shouldn't forget that, and there are some elements of society where such behavior (sexual harassment) is allowed. There are also some parts of society that are sexually opressed (the Arabian culture is a good example of this, multiple wives leads alot of younger males without any access to female contact ). These males will act on instincts, and if females cover up more that will make them less of a target for such men.
It all falls down to the simple question of rights and responsibilities. Women have the right to dress up as they wish, but they also have a responsibility as to not sexually provoke people who are vulnerable to being provoked in such ways. They also have a duty of care to look after themselves and their bodies.
Thoughts, opinions please?
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People negging this post and talking about rape haven't got a clue what this post is about
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Disagree completely. What is our 'primal nature' for a start?(Original post by Rennit)
Males will act in their primal nature, we shouldn't forget that -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Or the men who believe a short dress is an invitation could just learn not to sexually assault instead of controlling half the population's clothing?
Odd concept I know... Learning not to do bad things. Who would have thought...Last edited by skunky x; 27-06-2012 at 09:29. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.I agree with the second sentence but not the first. They don't have a responsibility to care for what people make of them and how they react to seeing them. If other people are provoked, that's their own responsibility to deal with. It may be a far-fetched analogy, but I wouldn't say a child is even partly responsible if a pedophile feels sexually provoked by seeing them. It's the pedophile's duty to try to restrain themselves.(Original post by Rennit)
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they also have a responsibility as to not sexually provoke people who are vulnerable to being provoked in such ways. They also have a duty of care to look after themselves and their bodies.
But yes, women should look after themselves and if feeling more safe comes from dressing more conservatively, while they don't have to, it's good to look after themselves and it could help. So I would encourage them to be careful with what they're wearing in dodgy areas, but if they want to dress provocatively then that's fair enough too as it's their body.Last edited by For The Love Of Giraffe; 26-06-2012 at 23:18. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.I know someone that worked in a lingerie shop and she said you'd be surprised by how nice they underwear Burqa clad women would buy. The little minxes.(Original post by Politricks)
How often is a Burka clad woman whistled at compared to somebody in a tight short skirt?
However, the ladies from both ends of the spectrum get as much attention as each other
Beating China handily there. Still shockingly high though.A survey of 1,040 Scots carried out by Cello MRUK in February 2010 for the Scottish Government found that:
• 23% think a woman can be at least partly responsible if she is drunk at the time of the attack
• 17% thought that a woman bore some responsibility if she wore revealing clothing
• 15% say there should be some burden of responsibility for rape if the women is flirting
• 8% think rape can be the woman's fault if she is known to have had many sexual partners -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.because wearing 6inch heals, tight mini skirts that almost show pants and squashed breasts and painted faces are comfortable for women. they don't do it for the pleasure of men.
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To a certain extent I agree. Some girls dress appallingly these days- especially on nights out! Nothing wrong with a cheeky short skirt, or a crop top or whatever, but the boundaries are being pushed too far.
However, nobody 'asks' to be raped/abused, despite their attire and attitude, and if someone is out to hurt another person, they'll do it regardless of clothing.
But please, girls, put it AWAY sometimes- you're giving us a bad name! Haha x
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Victim blaming. Its attitudes like this that deters women from reporting rape/sexual harassment.
And what is this bull about "primal nature"? As if the urge to rape is inherent in all males.
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Christ everyone needs to calm down.
The survey does not say that 70% of people in China think women are responsible for being sexually harassed (harassed, not raped or assaulted), it says that 70% of people in one area of China think that women should consider dressing more conservatively than a woman in a see through dress to discourage harassment.
Agree or disagree it is a long way from people thinking women are at least partially responsible for getting raped if they aren't in a snow suit. If you gave that survey to people in Britain i doubt the % would be much lower.Last edited by Darth Stewie; 26-06-2012 at 23:31. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.O.o(Original post by OmicronPersei8)
And what is this bull about "primal nature"? As if the urge to rape is inherent in all males.
It's not? I thought I was normal... -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Did you just skim my writing then?(Original post by skunky x)
Or men could just learn not to sexually assault instead of controlling half the population's clothing?
Odd concept I know... Learning not to do bad things. Who would have thought...
Please don't say "men " will have to learn, we are talking about a very, very small minority of men here. 99% of Men would never even think about sexually harassing a girl. Its the 1% of defunct society I have talked about. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Right, thanks for that, because had you not said it, as a man, I'd probably have been going out later to sexually assault someone. Cheers for the heads up.(Original post by skunky x)
Or men could just learn not to sexually assault instead of controlling half the population's clothing?
Odd concept I know... Learning not to do bad things. Who would have thought...
Yes, the views expressed in the survey are bad, but what you just implied is ****ty aswell. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Lol not too often you see a women wearing a burqa in China, even if its for protest purposes.
Edit: And reword your title, its suggesting that all Chinese as a collective agree with that statementLast edited by Aaron_xyz; 26-06-2012 at 23:42. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Sorry, what land are you living in?(Original post by smd4std)
because wearing 6inch heals, tight mini skirts that almost show pants and squashed breasts and painted faces are comfortable for women. they don't do it for the pleasure of men. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.(Original post by Norton1)
I know someone that worked in a lingerie shop and she said you'd be surprised by how nice they underwear Burqa clad women would buy. The little minxes.
Bit patronizing innit
Well animals will act as animals. Just grow a massive beard and tear your clothing off, beast.(Original post by Rennit)
If a male is sexually repressed, then yes, primal urges WILL urge the man to rape.
Get your seeds into the woman at all costs. This sums up the basic way of nature.
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.I think it's safe to say that most women are very aware of how much attention they will receive when dressed in a particular way and certainly in dressing more provocatively they are far more likely to attract the attention of 'perverts'. It would be naive to think that a girl showing up in little more than her underwear isn't going to attract unwanted attention but the real crime isn't in this display of self confidence or even 'freedom of fashion', it's in the perverts that even make this discussion possible.
