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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.I said it with some satirical intent.(Original post by SophiaKeuning)
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Yes, I totally agree.(Original post by Ed3003)
I think it's safe to say that most women are very aware of how much attention they will receive when dressed in a particular way and certainly in dressing more provocatively they are far more likely to attract the attention of 'perverts'. It would be naive to think that a girl showing up in little more than her underwear isn't going to attract unwanted attention but the real crime isn't in this display of self confidence or even 'freedom of fashion', it's in the perverts that even make this discussion possible.
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Yes! In a job application the other day I was asked, 'If the conditions are right, most people would steal... agree, disagree etc...' Worrying.(Original post by Rennit)
Yes, I totally agree.
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Rape and sexual harassment are two different things entirely. In Italy for example, women will often be harassed for wearing revealing clothes, simply because it attracts a lot of attention in a culture where most women dress modestly (at least, in the sense of covering themselves). If this is the same in China, then what right do women have to change their own culture? It's like transvestites: dressing up as the opposite sex is just not done unless you want to provoke a reaction, that's just the way it is. Same for revealing clothing.
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.I think part of this is true . If you go to a cheap night club you notice that all the leches are bottom grabing the girls with hot pants, short skirts and revealing outfits. And even on the streets at night when it's 'pub kick out time' you get lerry leches coming on to girls in revealing outfits , but i dont think the girls should stop enjoying dressing up for a night out or 'whatever'. I just think they should stay safe and get a registered taxi home or walk a safe route, it's all about being streetwise and savy really.
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This is total bull**** - just cause someone is dressed provocatively doesn't give someone else an excuse to hit on them or whatever - ever heard of the slut walk? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13739876
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.No. Otherwise you would be charged.(Original post by Rennit)
Yes, I totally agree.
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Women dress up provocatively to attract males.(Original post by helloanna)
This is total bull**** - just cause someone is dressed provocatively doesn't give someone else an excuse to hit on them or whatever - ever heard of the slut walk? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13739876
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Women complain when they attract the wrong males.
The slut walk was basically a group of femenists thinking that men should be subjugated for the needs of women. It was very contraversial, and in my opinion, wrong.
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Because the cultural reaction is retarded.(Original post by Copperknickers)
Rape and sexual harassment are two different things entirely. In Italy for example, women will often be harassed for wearing revealing clothes, simply because it attracts a lot of attention in a culture where most women dress modestly (at least, in the sense of covering themselves). If this is the same in China, then what right do women have to change their own culture? It's like transvestites: dressing up as the opposite sex is just not done unless you want to provoke a reaction, that's just the way it is. Same for revealing clothing. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Men dress up to attract Females.(Original post by Rennit)
Women dress up provocatively to attract males.
Women complain when they attract the wrong males.
The slut walk was basically a group of femenists thinking that men should be subjugated for the needs of women. It was very contraversial, and in my opinion, wrong.
A similar question would be asking; If you left a few gold bars that were easy to steal in a poor neighbourhood, would you be to blame if they got stolen?
Men complain when they attract the wrong females. Only they are not molested by them in public. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Yes but men don't go on a meaningless "player walk" that just annoys everybody.(Original post by DorianGrayism)
Men dress up to attract Females.
Men complain when they attract the wrong females. Only they are not molested by them in public.
I don't go out showing my 6pack infront of fat crazy girls, I dress smartly and go to the right places where I'm not at risk. This is what females should also do. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.But men are not molested and then have people tell them that they should change what they wear. Hence, why they don't have a "player walk".(Original post by Rennit)
Yes but men don't go on a meaningless "player walk" that just annoys everybody.
I don't go out showing my 6pack infront of fat crazy girls, I dress smartly and go to the right places where I'm not at risk. This is what females should also do.
You can show your six pack out and fat girls don't go crazy. They won't start to molest you without your permission either. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.o. sorry bro. You never know with TSR. But yes I apologise boy(Original post by Norton1)
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.I'm sure most guys have had their bum pinched by a girl some time or other.(Original post by DorianGrayism)
But men are not molested and then have people tell them that they should change what they wear. Hence, why they don't have a "player walk".
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.
This view is demeaning to both men and women. Men aren't savages you know, they possess this thing called self control. There's just a few idiots out there that ruin it for everyone else, as is always the case.
People shouldn't have to start dressing the way other people tell me to just because some *******s don't know the meaning of respect.
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Women dress up provocatively to attract males.
Women complain when they attract the wrong males.
The slut walk was basically a group of femenists thinking that men should be subjugated for the needs of women. It was very contraversial, and in my opinion, wrong.
A similar question would be asking; If you left a few gold bars that were easy to steal in a poor neighbourhood, would you be to blame if they got stolen?
Bull****. Some women do dress in order to receive male attention but others just like to look good and then all the idiots who won't leave them alone say "oh you're dressing provocatively". What does that even mean, anyway? "Provocative" is such a subjective word. What a woman may think is fine someone like you may class as "provocative". And provocation doesn't mean you have to rise to it. I see good-looking people all the time wearing stuff that I could class "provocative" but i don't harass them because I am a decent ****ing human being
And slutwalk is nothing to do with that. It's against the idea that rape victims are harassed over their choice of clothing, and told that they "must have lead them on" etc etc.
"Look but don't touch" really isn't that much of a hard concept to grasp.
And obviously the person who steals the gold bars is to blame. That is the whole point.Last edited by Mm_Minty; 27-06-2012 at 00:35. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Why is that?(Original post by DorianGrayism)
Because the cultural reaction is retarded. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Well...yeh....at "some time or other" Aka...relatively rarely.(Original post by Rennit)
I'm sure most guys have had their bum pinched by a girl some time or other. -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.and its rare that a women will be sexually harassed. Your point being?(Original post by DorianGrayism)
Well...yeh....at "some time or other" Aka...relatively rarely.
I can't expect to walk into a gaybar with my top off and not get harassed, can I? That'd be incredibly stupid of me, seeing as I'm straight and don't want to be harassed by people i'm not interested in.
I think you're seeing this as from the common femenist female view, but can you start to see it now from the normal perspective?
Men in general, will not sexually harass, but for a womens own safety, cover up! We can't be responsible for other men! -
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Re: Girls should dress less provocatively to avoid perverts, say the Chinese.Or you could stop living in a fantasy land where there are no such things as criminals and all precautions should be thrown out the window. Grow up.(Original post by skunky x)
Or men could just learn not to sexually assault instead of controlling half the population's clothing?
Odd concept I know... Learning not to do bad things. Who would have thought...
