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  1. Darkphilosopher's Avatar
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    More student protests incomming...
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-18607279

    The National Union of Students (NUS) is urging members to take to the streets of London in November in protest at rising fees and reduced employment.
    How exactly does one protest against reduced employment..?

    Besides, causing havoc in the center of London certainly isn't going to do any good for our economy and economic woes.

    The university fee hike is unfair but the current fees are unsustainable. When will they get this through their heads?
    Last edited by Darkphilosopher; 28-06-2012 at 09:00.
  2. OU Student's Avatar
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    (Original post by YB101)
    I've never been one for protesting but I most definitely will be there. I just don't understand why we must pay so much more with our future looking so uncertain

    if anyone actually knows WHY the costs are increasing please let me know
    I think when the fees were around £3k, they were heavily subsidised. Probably can't afford this now; so have to pass the costs on. And I'm sure there's something about uni funding being cut.
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    They're so cold, these scholars! May lightning strike their food so that their mouths learn how to eat fire!
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    (Original post by YB101)
    I've never been one for protesting but I most definitely will be there. I just don't understand why we must pay so much more with our future looking so uncertain

    if anyone actually knows WHY the costs are increasing please let me know
    Strictly speaking, the cost is not rising. Rather, the government is paying for less. For people taking out loans, the government still pays up front, it's just you have to pay back more later.

    I don't support it, but that is what is happening in a nutshell.
  5. Drewski's Avatar
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    Don't support it for the simple reason that those in Government don't care one jot. They ignored the students last time, they'll ignore them this time.

    Even on the off chance that this 'demo' [aka 'riot'] is actually organised and doesn't descend into violence it will have no effect whatsoever on Gov piolicy.
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    This is what water cannons are good for.
  7. ForKicks's Avatar
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    In a recession there must be cuts and in terms of immediate finance they shouldn't be affected due to student loans.

    As for reduced employment protesting, the NUS is full of Labour party aspirants. Activism is like their debating society!! As such, it is hardly surprising they want to make a fuss over whatever makes them look good at the time.
    Last edited by ForKicks; 27-06-2012 at 22:41.
  8. aeterno's Avatar
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    Oh FFS, not more pointless protesting :facepalm2:
  9. criminal's Avatar
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    I don't agree with the violence but I am definitely going. Turning up there is better than sitting at home and doing nothing.
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    NUS :rolleyes:

    The only thing you are good for is a discount card, beyond that you're as useful and intelligent as a jellyfish in an armchair.
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    (Original post by criminal)
    I don't agree with the violence but I am definitely going. Turning up there is better than sitting at home and doing nothing.
    Can't you get on with some studying for next year?
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    (Original post by Drewski)
    Don't support it for the simple reason that those in Government don't care one jot. They ignored the students last time, they'll ignore them this time.

    Even on the off chance that this 'demo' [aka 'riot'] is actually organised and doesn't descend into violence it will have no effect whatsoever on Gov piolicy.
    Gets you kudos if you want a career in Labour or the unions though
  13. Drewski's Avatar
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    (Original post by ForKicks)
    Gets you kudos if you want a career in Labour or the unions though
    Yeah, they're big on people throwing fire extinguishers off buildings
  14. criminal's Avatar
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    (Original post by ForKicks)
    Can't you get on with some studying for next year?
    Lol I start uni in September
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    (Original post by criminal)
    Lol I start uni in September
    Pre-reading! Absolutely everyone does that before starting, lol.
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    As far as I see it, university is part of the education system and if politicians believed in everyone being able to get the education they deserve, then the fees would be removed entirely. Yes, there are bursaries etc but these do not remove the barriers to entry entirely for poorer students.

    If I could ask the Government one thing, as our population continues to increase, will we also have to start paying for sixth form, then secondary school, then primary school as education becomes increasingly "unaffordable"?!
  17. tehFrance's Avatar
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    don't support it but a day off is a day off
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    (Original post by Laalalala)
    As far as I see it, university is part of the education system and if politicians believed in everyone being able to get the education they deserve, then the fees would be removed entirely. Yes, there are bursaries etc but these do not remove the barriers to entry entirely for poorer students.

    If I could ask the Government one thing, as our population continues to increase, will we also have to start paying for sixth form, then secondary school, then primary school as education becomes increasingly "unaffordable"?!
    People can. It is called student loan and grant.

    No. It is accepted that most countries with top uni's charge their students. It also seems accepted that up to 18 is the right level of 100% state funded education.
    Last edited by ForKicks; 27-06-2012 at 23:05.
  19. ForKicks's Avatar
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    (Original post by tehFrance)
    don't support it but a day off is a day off
    Not sure you get a day off out of it
  20. tehFrance's Avatar
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    Re: More student protests incomming...
    (Original post by ForKicks)
    Not sure you get a day off out of it
    Well if students are striking in general then why not take a day off? I took so many off last year it won't make the slightest difference this year
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