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(Original post by DaveSmith99)
Six years, no league title. He's not the managerial god that liverpool fans seem to think he is.

since Liverpool's glory days of the 80's, he's the closest they've got, he improved them when he joined, and when he left, you saw how it fell apart

[jam277]

(Original post by TheBallWinner)
2nd place finishes. 3rd place finishes.

Consistent Champions League semi finals and quarter finals.

Beat Inter Milan 3-0. Beat Real Madrid 5-0. Beat Barcelona. Juventus.

I just think Liverpool are many, many years away from this type of success and attractive football that Alonso, Torres, Gerrard and co used to offer. Broke a record for the amount of goals scored in a season too.

Oh and thanks alot Macheda for no league title.

Wait a sec, liverpool came 2nd once, besides that they were scrapping for 3rd/4th spot and due to a severe lack of competition for 4th spot when tottenham started going downhill they would always be in the top 4 and would still have been were it not for their poor season in 2010 and citys new found money.

07, 08 and 09 there was at least 9 points separating 4th and 5th so far from competition with the top 4.

Ok liverpool were getting 60-87 points with rafa tbf. Liverpool broke the record for their amount of goals scored in a season, chelsea have the record.

[checkolad]

(Original post by little_wizard123)
Definitely A friend's mum said that amateurs would do better as they'd want it more. Then you get the typical 'England fan' - the typical pub goer, slating Rooney (for just being fat) and Hodgson. TSR is bad enough really, much prefer reading threads when there's not a lot going on. Endless arguments over trivial things. Big tournaments just make everybody think they're an expert; it's so exhausting hearing about it.

My friend is very knowledgeable, and I love talking about tactics etc. with him. He does the sensible thing when it comes to football fans; he ignores them. If somebody says something factually inaccurate then I'll correct them, but if it's just endless, clueless drivel I shut my mouth.

The circular arguments on here are so silly.

[checkolad]

Also the term "tippy-tappy"

[little_wizard123]

(Original post by checkolad)
The circular arguments on here are so silly.

How do you mean?

[KingMessi]

I was going to write a long list, but the single thing that makes football almost unbearable at times for me is the idiocy and partisanship around it. Things like 'hating' another team or their fans, most of whom are perfectly decent people and have no connection with you whatsoever.

In the same vein, the fools who call John Terry a 'legend' and are so pathetically partisan they ignore the bad in their club or nation. I'm a staunch Chelsea fan, but some of our players and ethos's are abhorrent. John Terry, Ashley Cole, sacking Ancelotti, forcing out Ranieri, allowing the players to undermine Villas-Boas...it's all atrocious.

And, more than anything, the retards that know nothing about football but go to the pub or to a ground for a game and just talk nonsense throughout the entire game.

[jilebinator]

-When a foul is given and the commentator says "that would have been a fair challenge, when I used to play". No one gives a ****.

-When the camera zooms into a player/manager/fan whilst the ball is still in play. I want to watch football not a face.

-Joey Barton

-When ITV or BBC air the match. I would rather watch a broken stream.

-When people leave a match early. stupidity, support your team till the end.

-Fans get their knowledge about players from Fifa and FM and then pretend they are ITK.

-When players talk about potential transfers.

-When players retweet abuse they receive online.

-Chelsea/City spending

-Hazard

Just a few, I'll get more down later.

[Prepare-Yourself]

Racism, Sexism and Hooliganism

[TomDixie]

I hate Sky but respect their financial contribution.

Having now moved away from Liverpool I was looking forward to going back home for the first match of the season against Man United. Then Sky moved it to "Monday Night Football". Sigh.

The sad thing is that I'll end up watching it on TV.

[lisam191]

The fact that it's never off the TV!

[Leelad]

International friendlies during the season. ****ing despise them, especially when quality players get injured.

[wildrover]

Steve Kean
Venkys
Hunt
Agnew
Singh
etc

[Perfofrmer]

divers (like Materazzi)
brutals (like Materazzi)
cheaters (like Materazzi)

[aneziri20]

Financial doping, billionaires taking over clubs paying excess wages and making players extremely disloyal. (yes I am an arsenal fan!!)

[Sephiroth]

Money. It's now a title auction rather than a title race. The FA should just crown City 2012-13 champions now because they're the highest bidder again.
I guess it's a good thing no one cares who wins the EPL otherwise no one would bother watching any matches when they know the outcome before the season starts.

[Shannine]

-Diving
-Girls who pretend they like football to impress lads
-Glory hunters
-The majority of commentators/pundits
-ITV football coverage
-Sunderland

[hbk4894]

pundits who regularly say "it was a tougher sport in my day"

[Flair91]

Sergio Busquets - for being the biggest cheater i've ever seen play.
Sepp Blatter - for running a corrupt organisation where bribing is commonplace. For denying technology to be implemented in football, for sooo long, whilst others sports had it. For hating England.
Micheal Platini - hating England. Mad ideas "i want the 2020 euros to be played in cities all over Europe!" - no thanks. Probably runs a corrupt organisation too.
Crap football pundits - After watching Gary Neville do his analysis, the rest are just posers who cannot give you an insightful point of view. It really is the same old stuff over and over again. I find it hard to watch them now.

[hbk4894]

when a striker and a goalkeeper jump up for the ball from a corner , it is some times a foul against the keeper , the striker not doing anything wrong there.

[Four Queue]

Too many of the best talents end up at the same clubs. Players like Neymar, Gotze, Draxler etc will end up being bought out of their clubs for big money, and there's only going to be a few clubs who they can go to (Barca, Madrid, Bayern, Chelsea, City, United (possibly). It's just rinse and repeat with all the other young talents.