(Original post by TheBallWinner)
2nd place finishes. 3rd place finishes.
Consistent Champions League semi finals and quarter finals.
Beat Inter Milan 3-0. Beat Real Madrid 5-0. Beat Barcelona. Juventus.
I just think Liverpool are many, many years away from this type of success and attractive football that Alonso, Torres, Gerrard and co used to offer. Broke a record for the amount of goals scored in a season too.
Oh and thanks alot Macheda for no league title.
Wait a sec, liverpool came 2nd once, besides that they were scrapping for 3rd/4th spot and due to a severe lack of competition for 4th spot when tottenham started going downhill they would always be in the top 4 and would still have been were it not for their poor season in 2010 and citys new found money.
07, 08 and 09 there was at least 9 points separating 4th and 5th so far from competition with the top 4.
Ok liverpool were getting 60-87 points with rafa tbf. Liverpool broke the record for their amount of goals scored in a season, chelsea have the record.
(Original post by little_wizard123)
Definitely A friend's mum said that amateurs would do better as they'd want it more. Then you get the typical 'England fan' - the typical pub goer, slating Rooney (for just being fat) and Hodgson. TSR is bad enough really, much prefer reading threads when there's not a lot going on. Endless arguments over trivial things. Big tournaments just make everybody think they're an expert; it's so exhausting hearing about it.
My friend is very knowledgeable, and I love talking about tactics etc. with him. He does the sensible thing when it comes to football fans; he ignores them. If somebody says something factually inaccurate then I'll correct them, but if it's just endless, clueless drivel I shut my mouth.
I was going to write a long list, but the single thing that makes football almost unbearable at times for me is the idiocy and partisanship around it. Things like 'hating' another team or their fans, most of whom are perfectly decent people and have no connection with you whatsoever.
In the same vein, the fools who call John Terry a 'legend' and are so pathetically partisan they ignore the bad in their club or nation. I'm a staunch Chelsea fan, but some of our players and ethos's are abhorrent. John Terry, Ashley Cole, sacking Ancelotti, forcing out Ranieri, allowing the players to undermine Villas-Boas...it's all atrocious.
And, more than anything, the retards that know nothing about football but go to the pub or to a ground for a game and just talk nonsense throughout the entire game.
Money. It's now a title auction rather than a title race. The FA should just crown City 2012-13 champions now because they're the highest bidder again.
I guess it's a good thing no one cares who wins the EPL otherwise no one would bother watching any matches when they know the outcome before the season starts.
Sergio Busquets - for being the biggest cheater i've ever seen play. Sepp Blatter - for running a corrupt organisation where bribing is commonplace. For denying technology to be implemented in football, for sooo long, whilst others sports had it. For hating England. Micheal Platini - hating England. Mad ideas "i want the 2020 euros to be played in cities all over Europe!" - no thanks. Probably runs a corrupt organisation too. Crap football pundits - After watching Gary Neville do his analysis, the rest are just posers who cannot give you an insightful point of view. It really is the same old stuff over and over again. I find it hard to watch them now.
Too many of the best talents end up at the same clubs. Players like Neymar, Gotze, Draxler etc will end up being bought out of their clubs for big money, and there's only going to be a few clubs who they can go to (Barca, Madrid, Bayern, Chelsea, City, United (possibly). It's just rinse and repeat with all the other young talents.