Dutch Company Aims to establish permanent human colony on Mars
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Dutch Company Aims to establish permanent human colony on Mars
The project is called Mars One and it aims to establish permantent human colonies on Mars by 2023. The project will be funded by private corporations and advertisers and would be televised in a "Big Brother" type event on steroids.
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What do you think about the prospect of peoples spending 7 months on a rocket and then spending the rest of their lives on Mars?
I wonder what effect this will have on the average human lifespan as it's already been proven that reduced gravity can wreak havoc with the human body. -
Re: Dutch Company Aims to establish permanent human colony on MarsIt's pretty smart actually. They need the money from the event, sponsorships and advertising to fund the whole thing and without funding this doesn't happen. It's really only a step up from televising the moon landing and it would be an interesting experiment for others (NASA and private corporations) to see how the people cope and what affects them. There's no point colonising a planet if you can't adjust to living on it.(Original post by Old Father Time)
This is being used as a 'Big Brother type event'?? Worlds gone mad. Colonization of the solar system should be used only to advance science and human development and civilization. Not entertainment. -
Re: Dutch Company Aims to establish permanent human colony on MarsSince governmental organisations such as NASA aren't going to be able to do much since their funding's been slashed, it's up to the private industry. If it takes televising the colony live to fund it, I'm all for it, plus we gain a valuable insight into what it's like on Mars.(Original post by Old Father Time)
This is being used as a 'Big Brother type event'?? Worlds gone mad. Colonization of the solar system should be used only to advance science and human development and civilization. Not entertainment.
NASA have had 40 years to further space exploration but their is no drive. Sometimes I think only another Cold War would force massive funding in space expeditions by global superpowers. -
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Sounds like the most horiffic kind of torture for the people that go. The novelty of being on Mars would wear off pretty quickly, then it's just a barren rock.
I would love the human race to expand across space, and we need the first pioneers to do that. I'm just not convinced there is a lot for us in this solar system.
Edit: Here is a copy of a later post, because people keep misunderstanding me
Spoiler:ShowI think it's an important stepping stone, but that the very first people to go will essentially be giving up their lives. We won't find new elements (they'd have to be radioactive) on Mars, new life forms are unlikely, and if we could bring back resources we could bring back people. The moon landings were a short trip. This will be permanent.
I'm an idealist too by the way - if I could spend the entire US budget on scientific advancement I would (which is probably why I'm not in government). I think this is fantastic. I'm just pointing out that spending the rest of your life on an uncolonised Mars is not something to be taken lightly.Last edited by Octohedral; 29-06-2012 at 22:59. -
Re: Dutch Company Aims to establish permanent human colony on MarsI don't think we'll be able to colonise other star systems in the near future. Consider the fact that it took Voyager 1 35 years to get outside of our own solar system.(Original post by Octohedral)
Sounds like the most horiffic kind of torture for the people that go. The novelty of being on Mars would wear off pretty quickly, then it's just a barren rock.
I would love the human race to expand across space, and we need the first pioneers to do that. I'm just not convinced there is a lot for us in this solar system. -
Re: Dutch Company Aims to establish permanent human colony on MarsThe reason why there is not enough funding for this is because the respective governments of the Earth spend their money on other things such as war. I'd argue that whilst this is the case, then such a mission should not be taking place. This will only extend the problems we face on Earth to the Red Planet. That could be disastrous and lead in many fatalities. Lets sort out our own planet and our own problems before sending humans with these problems onto another one.(Original post by Ape Gone Insane)
It's pretty smart actually. They need the money from the event, sponsorships and advertising to fund the whole thing and without funding this doesn't happen. It's really only a step up from televising the moon landing and it would be an interesting experiment for others (NASA and private corporations) to see how the people cope and what affects them. There's no point colonising a planet if you can't adjust to living on it. -
Re: Dutch Company Aims to establish permanent human colony on MarsI know - that's why I'm saying maybe Mars isn't worth it right now.(Original post by ThatPerson)
I don't think we'll be able to colonise other star systems in the near future. Consider the fact that it took Voyager 1 35 years to get outside of our own solar system. -
Re: Dutch Company Aims to establish permanent human colony on MarsThat is a very good perspective; I like it. There are still so many territorial disputes on Earth, it wouldn't be hard to imagine something like that just on a larger scale.(Original post by Old Father Time)
The reason why there is not enough funding for this is because the respective governments of the Earth spend their money on other things such as war. I'd argue that whilst this is the case, then such a mission should not be taking place. This will only extend the problems we face on Earth to the Red Planet. That could be disastrous and lead in many fatalities. Lets sort out our own planet and our own problems before sending humans with these problems onto another one.
Here is an extract from an interview with the director of SETI:
(Original post by New Scientist)
Stephen Hawking thinks that broadcasting our existence to aliens is too risky, as they might come and plunder the Earth. You disagree?
Stephen may be right - neither of us are experts in extraterrestrial psychology. Humans haven't treated each other well in the past, I agree with that. But I can imagine another scenario: if aliens can get here, they must be significantly more technologically advanced than we are. They will be older than we are. I don't think you get to be old unless you outgrow the aggression that was probably so helpful in developing your intelligence over evolutionary times. By the way, if they do come here, they will be calling all the shots. -
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It sounds a bit like a social experiment. It can get a lot of money though and it's interesting how Human exploration has become entertainment but we watch films about adventure. It's the perfect way for us all to support it. Frankly I'd be happy with daily blogs than a full blown Big Brother thing.
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Re: Dutch Company Aims to establish permanent human colony on MarsI agree, there's certainly not a lifetime's worth of experiments to be done on Mars. Essentially they would just be being used as guinea pigs to investigate the long term effects of low gravity on the human body; certainly doesn't sound very appealing to me.(Original post by Octohedral)
Sounds like the most horiffic kind of torture for the people that go. The novelty of being on Mars would wear off pretty quickly, then it's just a barren rock.
I would love the human race to expand across space, and we need the first pioneers to do that. I'm just not convinced there is a lot for us in this solar system.
I understand where you're coming from with your second point too, but I'm not sure it's very realistic to go straight from traveling 250,000 miles to the moon, to traveling 118000000000000 miles to the nearest star system with potentially habitable planet with no stepping stone in between. -
Re: Dutch Company Aims to establish permanent human colony on Mars(Original post by Old Father Time)
The reason why there is not enough funding for this is because the respective governments of the Earth spend their money on other things such as war. I'd argue that whilst this is the case, then such a mission should not be taking place. This will only extend the problems we face on Earth to the Red Planet. That could be disastrous and lead in many fatalities. Lets sort out our own planet and our own problems before sending humans with these problems onto another one.
As much as it saddens me I don't see things like ethnic conflicts, wars over resources, religion, etc. disappearing any time soon. Definitely not before it becomes completely viable for individual organisations to travel to and from Mars and establish permanent settlements there.
So taking that into account, **** it. Given the myriad of other advances that will come from it, I'm all for anything furthering man's endeavours into space. If anything I feel better about NGOs taking the lead than specific countries doing so.
(Original post by perfectsymbology)
I think we should have a rival project. Mars cannot fall into Dutch hands.
Then again, we can just nick it once they've set up camp like with New York.
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Re: Dutch Company Aims to establish permanent human colony on MarsAt least the evictions would be fun to watch(Original post by Old Father Time)
This is being used as a 'Big Brother type event'?? Worlds gone mad. Colonization of the solar system should be used only to advance science and human development and civilization. Not entertainment.
