The Taboo of Science - "Black IQ".

The rule that suggests ethnicity is delineated by ethnicity when it is clearly individually surmountable.

As I said in our last discussion, I find it laughable that you can tell me that I have no control over how hard I work or what I choose to learn because other people who I do not know and have never encountered try/don't try hard. Extrapolate this to every other individual and you will understand why I think like I do.

It depends on their willingness to work, which is another thing that is not delineated by ethnicity and is individualised.


Then why delineate by ethnicity?

My decision to work is not influenced by the actions of people I do not know and have never encountered.

I can't choose to become taller, but I can choose to dedicate my time to learning something.

You mean when you never said this:



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I've never even come close to telling you this, sorry.

To those who study it, it's interesting and relevant - some people like to think about man and his differences. To you, it's perhaps boring and pointless.

correct. What an utterly bizarre thing to mention.

Well, that's a complicated issue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will ....

Because you know I'm right.

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because I know you're a dick.

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vedderfan94 - clearly a bit racist.
Rennit - attacking the arguer and not the argument.
See what I did there?
How about you two bond over your negative cohesion towards me? Go on - kiss and make up.

How am I racist? All I did was state the results of studies. If someone wants to go into depth about neuroscience, go ahead.

I inferred from your post that you though black people were less intellgent. I accept (although I haven't checked this out for myself) that they generally have lower IQs, but they count for **** all.

Well whether they are less intelligent or not, I can't say. Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. I just remember reading a discussion once on this topic of lower IQs where someone didn't believe that black people had a lower average IQ. Obviously, there is a lot of controversy and discussion on the accuracy of IQ tests though.

vedderfan94 - clearly a bit racist.
Rennit - attacking the arguer and not the argument.
See what I did there?
How about you two bond over your negative cohesion towards me? Go on - kiss and make up.

Vedderfan is too far up his own **** to listen to anyone else He's all Durham is the best omg its better than Oxbridge wtfbbqlolroflharrytruman.

If i were to really attack the argument, its that IQ tests are a load of rubbish. There will be slight variances in genetic IQ, but it shall mainly be through culturual differences. Blacks guy in white culture= same average IQ as a white person in a white culture.

Vedderfan seems to think that White people (Specifically those who go to Durham) are superior and should inherit the Earth

It's also been proven that all tests that have "scientifically proven" this, are geared towards the white middle class male and his style of learning.

why does it even matter when there's variation in all races?

Is there reason to worry if all [insert skin colour here] people failed GCSE maths and english, but all [insert other skin colour here] people got A*s? The same principle applies here, there's a difference that is undesirable which may have an identifiable and fixable cause.

but failing gcse's could be due to the school?

and is the difference really that distinct?

We still have this nonsense circulating in mainstream culture. Personally, I myself, like a few others, come from a culture and background that differs sharply with where a large majority of 'black' people in the West come from - hence why such statements that 'blacks have a lower IQ than whites' seems silly and like child's play to me etc. But, clearly some believe it to be genetically and inherently true and whatnot.

So, in an effort to see where this eagerness to make it true stems from, a few simply questions and premises are thrown out:

So, let us assume that not only do 'blacks have a lower IQ than whites', but that it is seemingly genetic and inherent.

Now, having established this, what do we do now? Do we take the black children out of schools? Not bother interviewing the blacks for top jobs? Give the blacks preferential treatment in our criminal courts? Or rather, round them up? Build concentration camps maybe? Or send every last black out of the West?

Clearly, what I'm trying to ask (through asking such offensive and direct questions) is that - what do such theories and studies about the link between race and intelligence seek to prove? Does it rather seek to further sever racial relations; further undermine any academic achievement of the young 'black' people? Encourage an inferiority complex in 'blacks'?

What do you think?

(ALERT, ALERT: Clearly, many of you replying have low IQs (lol, a pun, calm down). This post is laden with sarcasm. I personally do not believe any of the examples mentioned in the post. I even take the statement 'Blacks have a lower IQ than whites' with a pinch of salt much like I would take the statement 'First-year university students go out more than the general population' with a pinch of salt.)