[jam277]

(Original post by Anonymous)
Have to agree with you. I read some **** on here, and if I am honest, it makes me feel incredibly **** about my own race, and feel incredibly insecure when I am out and about in public.

As a black guy, I get stick too, but then I also notice that it's a bit of an advantage at times too, should be the same for black girls, in london everyone is on black girls. Think I see more good looking black girls here too, because there are more of them in general anyway.

[chronic_fatigue]

(Original post by FrigidSymphony)
Being open-minded is one thing, having preferences is perfectly valid. I'm sure a similar poll conducted in a different country would produce results entirely in your favour. No use complaining about other people having vastly different opinions on attractiveness; all it does is make you seem like a self-victimizer.

I really cringe when I see the 'do you find black girls attractive?' threads its the same old same old I don't see the same malicious post on threads about women of other races. There is a difference between being racist and having a preference. Some people will insult black women then use preference to justify what they say there is no need to be horrible all you have to say is 'I don't like black women' not 'I don't like black women they look like baboons'. Can you imagine what it must feel like to be made to think you are unattractive because of your skin colour? That you are at the bottom of the heap? I used to be really angry at some threads/post but I just ignore them now.

(Original post by FrigidSymphony)
Not sure you understood me. I don't find black girls generally attractive (something about the aesthetic features doesn't sit right for me), but I resent the implication that this is in any linked to racism on my part or a lower consideration of equal rights.

Can you expand on that? I'm interested.

[jam277]

(Original post by Anonymous)
I didn't know I was a religious black girl; regular church goer, who tries to preach and convert people - that is news to me! lol

Can I explain myself, think you've got the wrong end of the stick here.
I mean, in my area, there are loads of religious black girls, mainly because most of their parents came from another country, where religion was the norm so they adopt those beliefs, then again, I did go to a catholic school, but even when I was in a state school it was the same thing, just that you'd have a couple of muslim girls too.

It's the same with asian families too and is much less with white girls(not that i'd use race as a factor, if I like the girl enough I'd just accept it in all honesty). I'm not going to beat around the bush with the PC because that's just bull****.

[Anonymous]

(Original post by jam277)
As a black guy, I get stick too, but then I also notice that it's a bit of an advantage at times too, should be the same for black girls, in london everyone is on black girls. Think I see more good looking black girls here too, because there are more of them in general anyway.

As a black guy though it's an advantage to you; the amount of (not to sound racist, rude or anything), but white women who would kill for a black man! I kid you not; I get daggers in my work place, if I as much look at a couple (white woman, black man), mainly from the woman, as they fear I am going to ''pinch him'' (no joke). As a black girl here where I live (nr Bristol) it's incredibly hard; everyone knows everyone, so and so went out with said person/left overs, and there is a general lack of nice black men, with ambition, career and etc. Just gets on my nerves, and forms a vicious circle.

(Original post by jam277)
Can I explain myself, think you've got the wrong end of the stick here.
I mean, in my area, there are loads of religious black girls, mainly because most of their parents came from another country, where religion was the norm so they adopt those beliefs, then again, I did go to a catholic school, but even when I was in a state school it was the same thing, just that you'd have a couple of muslim girls too.

It's the same with asian families too and is much less with white girls(not that i'd use race as a factor, if I like the girl enough I'd just accept it in all honesty). I'm not going to beat around the bush with the PC because that's just bull****.

Ok now that you've expanded on it, it makes more sense. Thank you.

[YemiSanya90]

It's funny as I've never been one to be insecure about my looks, apart from the typical stuff we do as teenagers, but when I started at my co-ed sixth form and then at university, having spent years at an all-girls school. Suddenly, how you looked and dressed became important and I was a pretty late starter in terms of this and before had never wore makeup that often or focused on my clothing that much. (This has changed, but it was more to do with having student loans and bit more cash to spend on these items)

But, I have never faced any negativity about this and no one ever mentioned me being black or saw this as a talking point and I do have a very mixed group of friends from all different countries and backgrounds and it is only since I've been on TSR that this issue has been drawn to my attention. I've dated - for lack of a better word to use... guys from other ethnic backgrounds apart from my own and for me it has never been an issue for discussion in my group of friends. In my opinion, discussions like this do and change nothing; people have their own views about people regardless of their race and background and will maintain these beliefs no matter what you say or do.

I think if people are giving back- handed compliments to your face, then ignore them. I work in a bar and you have drunk guys who are all different races coming over all the time to say things and I normally take it with a pinch of salt as they are not worth the the time and attention you give them. The attitudes mention on this thread about black girls that are negative I think comes from presentation and how you present yourself and I find if you present yourself in way that show respect for yourself and the people around you then you'll that people will have nothing bad to say about you or anyone else. The negative views that are mention in these post come from a select minority of people who conduct themselves in way that could be described by some as ghetto, I would call it 'A lack of consideration towards your surroundings and the people around you' but to each their own.

I have taken some of the previous posts as example of the number of different attitude and I agree with most as they are true to an extent.

(Original post by smartieslover)
Hiya! I'm a black girl and I actually don’t think black girls are given a hard time at all. I think there’s some obvious people who label black girls as certain things, however I think that a large percentage of black girls don’t help themselves out. Sometimes I look at the other black girls in my college and I just think can’t you just drop the act of being cool and talk to everyone. Besides that, when you get to know SOME of them they're really lovely. So yeah, black girls aren't given a hard time, they're just kind of treated how they appear to treat others. PS I do hang around with some black girls but we tend to mingle with everyone.

I see what you mean, there were girls at my school and at university who made it their mission in life to be friends with only black people, who were distant or had a negative attitude towards people like (me!) who were friends with a number of different people. I choose to not join the Afro-Caribbean society at my uni partly due to this but also because it was ran badly, disorganized and to be honest didn't offer me anything that the other societies that I joined did and I joined about 6/7 societies at university.

(Original post by babygirl110)
Where do you live? Have you seen the black inner city school girls in London during rush hour in the mornings? I hang my head in shame at their loud obnoxious behavior, it's embarrassing.

I agree with this to an extent as I've been on the London school buses during school leaving hours and it is shocking to see, but you don't just see black girls acting in this way, I’ve seen Turkish girls, Indian girls, White girls and Black girls, this way of acting is not limited to race, but to school kids and I can only hope it's an attitude choice that they will grow out of and will learn to present themselves in a different way.

Sorry for the long post, but I've wanted to get this off my chest for sometime now.

[jam277]

(Original post by Anonymous)
As a black guy though it's an advantage to you; the amount of (not to sound racist, rude or anything), but white women who would kill for a black man! I kid you not; I get daggers in my work place, if I as much look at a couple (white woman, black man), mainly from the woman, as they fear I am going to ''pinch him'' (no joke). As a black girl here where I live (nr Bristol) it's incredibly hard; everyone knows everyone, so and so went out with said person/left overs, and there is a general lack of nice black men, with ambition, career and etc. Just gets on my nerves, and forms a vicious circle.

Yup, with the first thing, I'd probably get rejected by quite a few girls who just don't have black men as their preference(pretty **** at times but oh well), but then next second, a girl comes up to me and they blatantly like me for one reason because there's a crapload of white guys who are just as attractive, so it works both ways.

Only girls I think I generally struggle to get someone who likes me are asian girls, east and south asian, they seem so exclusive it's unbelievable. Then again i'm not really a stud with girls anyway so that might also be the reason why.

(Original post by Anonymous)
Ok now that you've expanded on it, it makes more sense. Thank you.

I agree with the first bit

[R4INBOW]

(Original post by FrigidSymphony)
(something about the aesthetic features doesn't sit right for me)

I too would like to see you expand on that


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[Anonymous]

(Original post by jam277)
Yup, with the first thing, I'd probably get rejected by quite a few girls who just don't have black men as their preference(pretty **** at times but oh well), but then next second, a girl comes up to me and they blatantly like me for one reason because there's a crapload of white guys who are just as attractive, so it works both ways.

See, I'm very open to who I would date (given the chance ); never actually dated a black guy because majority only interested in the white women lol Those who are interested in black women are so so so picky, it's unreal! But I would like to though; culture wouldn't be such a hassle - food being a prime example ''I don't like it, it's too spicy'' !

[jam277]

(Original post by Anonymous)
See, I'm very open to who I would date (given the chance ); never actually dated a black guy because majority only interested in the white women lol Those who are interested in black women are so so so picky, it's unreal! But I would like to though; culture wouldn't be such a hassle - food being a prime example ''I don't like it, it's too spicy'' !

Haha, the food thing is classic, I think some find black pepper spicy.

In london I've seen black guys with right mingers who are black, so I doubt it's the case of people being picky, it's just a case of preference, they'll go for the first black/white girl they see if that's who they prefer and that's it.

[Anonymous]

(Original post by jam277)
Haha, the food thing is classic, I think some find black pepper spicy.

LoL It's so annoying. Some mistaken the seasoning, ie basil, thyme as ''It's too hot''

[Anonymous]

To be fair, alot of black girls give other black girls are bad reputation. I'm black, and there were these girls at school who just fitted into that stereotype everyone plasters over us - loud, obnoxious, rude, etc etc. But to be honest, when you label us with such a stereotype, what do you expect? If you've done sociology, you'll know what I'm talking about - labelling You give people a label; they will eventually live up to it.

As a black person myself, who’s continuously avoided the pathetic stereotype, I think the best thing for people to do is look at themselves before pointing the finger. Don’t act like your race is better when you belittle your own. I hate it when black people continuously go on about slavery. What is the point? We're all equals now, get over it. RACISM will continue as long as you keep it alive for.

End of rant.

[Freiheit]

(Original post by Fruli)
I do feel that black girls are given a hard time. I see attractive black girls in the tube all the time.

Not all of them are unattractive, not all are stereotypical and ghetto. Why do people dislike all black girls. Surely there are a few gems?

There's a difference between African and Caribbean girls. African girls in general have nice personalities are wifey qualities but I rarely see Caribbean or "Black British" girls with nice personalities. (Before anyone says anything about generalising, I'm black myself and only talking from my experience).

[FrigidSymphony]

(Original post by R4INBOW)
I too would like to see you expand on that


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Well, to start, I don't like the noses. Either too big or too flat. I like thin, delicate noses. I also tend to prefer smaller, less invasive foreheads and hair that falls straighter and tousled rather then make a huge frame for the face. I also don't find dark skin all that attractive- I will happily take a freckled Northern girl over a tanned, mulatto or black girl any day.

Expanded enough? Just because I don't like your kind of aesthetic doesn't make me a racist- it makes you an annoying self-victimizer.

[FrigidSymphony]

(Original post by chronic_fatigue)
I really cringe when I see the 'do you find black girls attractive?' threads its the same old same old I don't see the same malicious post on threads about women of other races. There is a difference between being racist and having a preference. Some people will insult black women then use preference to justify what they say there is no need to be horrible all you have to say is 'I don't like black women' not 'I don't like black women they look like baboons'. Can you imagine what it must feel like to be made to think you are unattractive because of your skin colour? That you are at the bottom of the heap? I used to be really angry at some threads/post but I just ignore them now.



Can you expand on that? I'm interested.

Did I ever say anyone looked like a baboon? Come on, it's an aesthetic point, don't turn it into a racial one. And to be fair, most of the threads about the topic are started by black girls anyway, seeking (and not finding) guilty approval for their skin colour.

[FrigidSymphony]

(Original post by R4INBOW)
I'm not talking about preferences. I'm talking about the mass generalisations that some very narrow minded people on tsr make. For example one guy stated that he despised the attitude of ALL black girls, as well as our huge lips and fat noses. Am I not to feel slightly offended by that? Please, tell me how it feels to contrast entirely to the west's standard of beauty? It's not a nice feeling knowing that I might have to try extra hard to find a partner purely because of my race


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If you're not talking about preferences, why talk to me when I am OBVIOUSLY talking about preferences? You're not discriminated against, no more than freckled people are by anyone who finds freckles to be unattractive.

[chronic_fatigue]

(Original post by FrigidSymphony)
Did I ever say anyone looked like a baboon? Come on, it's an aesthetic point, don't turn it into a racial one. And to be fair, most of the threads about the topic are started by black girls anyway, seeking (and not finding) guilty approval for their skin colour.

When I said you I didn't mean YOU obviously, I mean generally. I think some of the more recent ones are started by black girls who feel insecure but the majority I have seen many were started by a male OP. You didn't say what features didn't sit well with you.

[Anonymous]

(Original post by Freiheit)
There's a difference between African and Caribbean girls. African girls in general have nice personalities are wifey qualities but I rarely see Caribbean or "Black British" girls with nice personalities. (Before anyone says anything about generalising, I'm black myself and only talking from my experience).

We're about, just keeping a low profile! lol Bit hard to get noticed when you got the loud, brash black girls, giving it all this and that attitude! lol

[R4INBOW]

(Original post by FrigidSymphony)
If you're not talking about preferences, why talk to me when I am OBVIOUSLY talking about preferences? You're not discriminated against, no more than freckled people are by anyone who finds freckles to be unattractive.

You're absolutely stupid. You're the one that replied to me when I made my statement; calling me a self victimiser I merely retorted by saying I'm not debating the subject of preferences. You are the one who quoted me first, so get your facts straight.


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[Freiheit]

(Original post by Anonymous)
We're about, just keeping a low profile! lol Bit hard to get noticed when you got the loud, brash black girls, giving it all this and that attitude! lol

I will keep an eye out in uni then


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[FrigidSymphony]

(Original post by chronic_fatigue)
When I said you I didn't mean YOU obviously, I mean generally. I think some of the more recent ones are started by black girls who feel insecure but the majority I have seen many were started by a male OP. You didn't say what features didn't sit well with you.

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