[suncake]

(Original post by Gales)
Random question: can you have more than two passports? It's something I've always wondered!

I have two passports, and my brother has 3 haha. *curls up into ball and has identity crisis*

[Herr]

I have 2 passports now, a Swiss one which was recently acquired and a British one which I was born with.

As for nationality, heh I guess it depends on which one is more convenient at the time of being asked

(Original post by Gales)
Random question: can you have more than two passports? It's something I've always wondered!

Yes you can, as long as neither of the passports have restrictions on dual nationality.

[Origami Bullets]

Your nationality is whatever it says on your passport. As you have two passports, you've got dual British / Irish nationality.

[That Bearded Man]

Sounds tricky.

If Ireland v Northern Ireland v England was a football match who would you support?

Northern Irish I suppose since you have been living there for half your life.

[Gakthoil]

(Original post by Sharpshooter)
Is anyone else confused as to what their nationality is?? Ok a little life summary:

I was born in England (Wallingford in Oxfordshire) to Irish parents
I moved to Harrow, London at the age of 1
Moved to Ipswich at the age of 6
Moved Omagh, Northern Ireland at the age 14

I admit I was a proud plastic paddy, I was brought up to support Ireland during the "Jack Charlton" days during 90s. My parents encouraged me to, bought me Ireland tops etc and never really supported England.

A lot of my childhood friends in England also considered me Irish and stated that I couldn't be English. A lot of my friends fathers used to be in the British army/former paratroopers/SAS members and held quite anti Irish views, some serving in Northern Ireland. One father refused to let me into his house because I wore a Republic of Ireland shirt.

I don't think I could ever call myself English/British, because I believe a lot English I grew up with wouldn't allow me too and see me blatantly as nothing else other than Irish. I appreciate a lot of blacks and asians who proudly call themeselves English/British, passing the Tebbit test which I didn't, but I have this paranoia and suspicion a lot of English people would call me Irish again if I went there etc. Theres this underlying feeling that if you're not White Anglo Saxon Protestant (WASP) you can't be English. Now I dont think like but believe secretly a large percentage of the population do in my paranoid brain.

I moved to Northern Ireland at age 14 Im nearly 26 now and still speak with an English accent. I got called "English bastard" etc when I came here, ridiculed everytime England did badly in sport (everytime I said I didn't support England). Even because of the religious situation here everyone thought I was a protestant (even though my parents are catholics). So I lost my sense of Irishness obviously a bit as I'm a "blow in" lol. I don't really support Ireland as much, but still don't support England either as I don't see myself as English.

I've learned to come to accept I have no nationailty. I've moved around too much and have kinda been rejected by both countries. I love football, but can't support anyone at euro 2012, only for fun or for players of countries I like. Its like this for every sport.

I hold both British and Irish passports.

Does anyone else feel confused as to what their nationality is? Like I support anyone now although theres a good chance I'll be living in Ireland for the rest of my life. Anyone?

You're nationally English, and ethnically Irish.

[DarkWhite]

Use the Irish passport if you have one though; more borders let you pass on it than a British passport, that's for sure!

[SneakyDoug]

I was born in America and lived there until 3 then moved to Wales until 8 and now live in Scotland (15) both my parents are Scottish aswell.
I have both British and American passports. I honestly don't know what I would consider myself to be

[Arturo Bandini]

It probably depends where you grew up (ie your childhood friends and the dad sound like ****ing *******s)

As a kid half of the people I knew were second generation immigrants so it never really bothered anyone or stopped them identifying themselves as English. At least partly. I actually think most people are pretty happy identifying as two things, like English/British but of their family culture too.

[Nerdy03]

I'm the same, I was born in London, my mother is french and my father is english (and irish). I've lived most of my life in Switzerland but I'm going to England for uni... And I can't just look at my passport since I have 3 .
I don't believe that people should only be allowed to have one nationality.. Why don't just consider yourself as british-irish?

[jumpingjesusholycow]

(Original post by SneakyDoug)
I was born in America and lived there until 3 then moved to Wales until 8 and now live in Scotland (15) both my parents are Scottish aswell.
I have both British and American passports. I honestly don't know what I would consider myself to be

Well considering you probably have virtually no discernible memories of your life in the United States at age 3 or earlier, surely this question is fairly easy to answer?

You might very well have allegiance to the nation in which you were born and that's all well and dandy if that's how you feel, but then you wouldn't be questioning it if you felt that way?

Bloody hell. It's like having an identity crisis has suddenly become the cool, hip thing to have and so everyone's jumping on the bandwagon. You're a foreign-born Brit who has spent all of his self-aware and conscious memory in the United Kingdom*, now sit down.












* and has another nationality due to technicalities of the nationality law in the place where he was born

[stevop21]

Come from a Scottish family but lived in England my whole life. I consider myself to be both English and Scottish

[SneakyDoug]

(Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
Well considering you probably have virtually no discernible memories of your life in the United States at age 3 or earlier, surely this question is fairly easy to answer?

You might very well have allegiance to the nation in which you were born and that's all well and dandy if that's how you feel, but then you wouldn't be questioning it if you felt that way?

Bloody hell. It's like having an identity crisis has suddenly become the cool, hip thing to have and so everyone's jumping on the bandwagon. You're a foreign-born Brit who has spent all of his self-aware and conscious memory in the United Kingdom*, now sit down.

* and has another nationality due to technicalities of the nationality law in the place where he was born

It's hardly as if I jumped on a bandwagon; if there is a thread on it then I post my "identity crisis" it's just contributing to the thread hardly jumping on a bandwagon is it?

[Psyk]

Nobody has a legal nationality of English, Scottish, Welsh or Northern Irish. It's either British or Irish. So if you mean nationality in legal terms, you're both British and Irish.

If by "nationality" you mean which nation you feel a part of, that's completely down to how you feel about them. There's nothing wrong with feeling like you're part of any number of nationalities in this sense.

[jumpingjesusholycow]

(Original post by SneakyDoug)
It's hardly as if I jumped on a bandwagon; if there is a thread on it then I post my "identity crisis" it's just contributing to the thread hardly jumping on a bandwagon is it?

Given that the basis of your so called 'crisis' is that you spent the first 3 years of your life in a place that you can't even remember, yes, you're jumping on the bandwagon. Now stop whining and move along. You're nothing special.

[SneakyDoug]

(Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
Given that the basis of your so called 'crisis' is that you spent the first 3 years of your life in a place that you can't even remember, yes, you're jumping on the bandwagon. Now stop whining and move along. You're nothing special.

Given that I have gone on holiday to where I was born about 12 times in the last 10 years I actually know quite a bit about it. So I do remember it actually, quite fondly infact. As for me being the one "whining" I would like to direct you to your previous post where you went on a paragraph long moan about jumping on bandwagons. And I didn't call it a "crisis" you did.

[Negaduck]

I have lived in Northern Ireland all my life.

Sometimes I class myself as Irish, sometimes as British but most often as the happy medium of Northern Irish. It all depends on who you are talking to really. Telling an English person in an accent that is distinctly Irish that you are British just seems kind of stupid for example.

[Dusty12]

(Original post by jumpingjesusholycow)
Given that the basis of your so called 'crisis' is that you spent the first 3 years of your life in a place that you can't even remember, yes, you're jumping on the bandwagon. Now stop whining and move along. You're nothing special.

I think it's difficult to understand if you're not in the situation yourself. I only lived a year in the US, but my dad is American and parents lived there for quite a while before that. Although I consider myself Irish/Welsh first, it feels strange to just discount the US entirely. Also, Irish people don't consider me Irish, Welsh people don't consider me Welsh, and Americans don't consider me American. I don't really care, but it's certainly different to how it is people who can be confident in their Englishness or their Frenchness or whatever.

I think the legal definition is mostly irrelevant. Your 'nationality' is the nation and culture you identify most with, and when you have lots of these conflicting, it's difficult to know where you stand.
That's how I feel.

[Fusion]

I think it verges on the ridiculous for someone who was, say, born and bred in London to then claim they're Irish via their parents.

[IAmTheKing]

Having been born in England but lived in Wales since I was 1, I can now confidently say I am of no fixed nationality ....

[Psyk]

(Original post by IAmTheKing)
Having been born in England but lived in Wales since I was 1, I can now confidently say I am of no fixed nationality ....

Or you could be British?