[Jack22031994]

(Original post by ClaireeRoisin)
I'm not saying we do have the ability to put down Northern Irish lol i'm saying i wish we did. Your comments are still invalid because i never said anything to the contrary.

I just mean if you are given the option to say your northern Irish the rest if the uk should be given the same option to say English,welsh or scottish


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[Gales]

(Original post by Jack22031994)
I just mean if you are given the option to say your northern Irish the rest if the uk should be given the same option to say English,welsh or scottish


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I usually do have the option to state I'm Welsh

[Jack22031994]

(Original post by Gales)
I usually do have the option to state I'm Welsh

Other than the census there us no English option only uk or British


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[Gales]

(Original post by Jack22031994)
Other than the census there us no English option only uk or British


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I filled in a survey today, had the choice of choosing Welsh. Whilst filling in my UCAS form I had the option of choosing Welsh. Please elaborate.

[Jack22031994]

(Original post by Gales)
I filled in a survey today, had the choice of choosing Welsh. Whilst filling in my UCAS form I had the option of choosing Welsh. Please elaborate.

Yeah but apart from ucas and the cencus i found it to be only British that's all from my experience


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[MrBlueMo0n]

(Original post by Gales)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationality

Aha. I'm English!

[Psyk]

(Original post by Jack22031994)
I understand that and I have no problem with having a Northen Irish option but I consider myself to be English before British so should be able to put english just like someone from Scotland should be able to put down Scottish


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How far do you go with it though? Should people from Cornwall be able to put in Cornish? What if someone feels more European than British, should they be able to put their nationality as European?

Obviously you can consider yourself to be whatever you like. But generally when a form asks you for your nationality, they're asking for a reason, and usually there's no reason to be more specific than "British". There wouldn't be any point in having English nationality in your passport as that's irrelevant for immigration purposes.

(Original post by Gales)
I filled in a survey today, had the choice of choosing Welsh. Whilst filling in my UCAS form I had the option of choosing Welsh. Please elaborate.

Did it ask you if are Welsh, or did it ask you if you live in Wales? Or if you speak Welsh? As education is a devolved issue, that genuinely is a case where it may be relevant where in the UK you're from.

[Organ]

Part Welsh and part English. I don't really care about identity, people who make a big deal out of it tend to be boring and a bit bigoted. I would say British if prompted.

(Original post by umarrehman187)
im half asian half lebanese
born in britain,
some people from here say you british.
some people say **** off your not british

im confused as **** right about now

Lebanon is in Asia mate

[Gales]

(Original post by Psyk)
Did it ask you if are Welsh, or did it ask you if you live in Wales? Or if you speak Welsh? As education is a devolved issue, that genuinely is a case where it may be relevant where in the UK you're from.

The form asked me to tick one box to state my nationality. The options were:

i) British ii) Irish iii) English iii) Scottish iv) Welsh v) Other

It wasn't about education or anything to do with where I lived.


Oh, if this is referring to UCAS. It was a tick list asking what nationality you identified with, you could select up to two (i.e. you could mix Welsh and British, English and British etc.) I think it was just being asked for statistics.

[Psyk]

(Original post by Gales)
The form asked me to tick one box to state my nationality. The options were:

i) British ii) Irish iii) English iii) Scottish iv) Welsh v) Other

It wasn't about education or anything to do with where I lived.


Oh, if this is referring to UCAS. It was a tick list asking what nationality you identified with, you could select up to two (i.e. you could mix Welsh and British, English and British etc.) I think it was just being asked for statistics.

Oh right, so it was like the census. I guess on that you can answer whatever the hell you like. I think I put down "Human" on the census.

[Gales]

(Original post by Psyk)
Oh right, so it was like the census. I guess on that you can answer whatever the hell you like. I think I put down "Human" on the census.

No, you couldn't just write human. They gave you the options you could choose from.

[Psyk]

(Original post by Gales)
No, you couldn't just write human. They gave you the options you could choose from.

Well you could tick the other box.

That's how it was on the census. There was an "other" option and space to write your answer.

[umarrehman187]

(Original post by Organ)
Part Welsh and part English. I don't really care about identity, people who make a big deal out of it tend to be boring and a bit bigoted. I would say British if prompted.



Lebanon is in Asia mate

half pakistani half lebanon...i was being more detailed in what i was...

[Ceiti]

Someone I know grew up in East Germany but they moved the border when he was 15 and suddenly he was in Poland. He lived there until he moved to Wales about 7/8 years ago. He now has Polish nationality, German nationality (despite the fact he never lived in Germany again after reunification) and is applying for British citizenship. He could also apply for Russian nationality due to his parents but decided that would be just slightly excessive.

[digitalfever]

My passport says Canadian.

[meg_banny]

(Original post by Sniggey)
I suppose i'm a Celt. I think it's human instinct to feel the need to belong to a certain ethnic group that one can identify with, thus why people who can't work out 'who they are' are left feeling discontented.

Does it bother you that much? You were born on the isle of Ireland, so you're technically Irish are you not? Just as i'm technically British as I was born on the isle of Britain, but preferably am known as a Scot.

Northern Ireland is an entirely different thing to Ireland. I'll not give you a history lesson but Northern Ireland is part of the UK.
It bothers me when people from the UK are totally oblivious as to how Northern Ireland/Northern Irish people stand..maybe this should be taught in the cirriculums.

[IAmTheKing]

From the sounds of it, the majority of people here can just pick which nationality they want to be, based on where they were born and/or where they grew up. Although some nations seem to have strong objections to people that were merely born in their country. For example, John Smith was born in Country X, to parents of Country Y. John may by rights claim to be X-ish, however, residents of X may say as he has no family history in X, he must therefore be Y-ish.

Or

John was born in Y to Y-ish parents. They moved to X shortly after John was born, where he was immersed in X's culture, language, etc. X is all he knows.
What then?

[Sniggey]

(Original post by meg_banny)
Northern Ireland is an entirely different thing to Ireland. I'll not give you a history lesson but Northern Ireland is part of the UK.
It bothers me when people from the UK are totally oblivious as to how Northern Ireland/Northern Irish people stand..maybe this should be taught in the cirriculums.

I'm aware of that. I have a reasonable knowledge of Ireland's history and I know about the divides in Northern Ireland. It was only a curious question, not meant to cause offence... I'm aware the majority of people from Protestant colonial backgrounds consider themselves to be British/Ulstermen as opposed to Irish. You say you call yourself 'Northern Irish', which has 'Irish' in it, yet you are offended at being called just 'Irish'. Just a little strange, that's all, I've only ever known people from Northen Irish to prefer either 'Irish' or 'British'.

[Admissionist]

Either way, you are British.

[BoxesAndBangles]

I'm Scottish and find it difficult to reconcile myself with the English version of 'Britishness' that is so spread around here and the world. So my nationality is Scottish, but I'm from the island of Britain and I'm governed by London so whether I feel it or not I am British. Unlike some British people, I also feel European. I don't know if that's because I have a culture that I feel doesn't fit into that 'quintessential British' image which is basically English culture.

At the end of the day, I'm British because that's what it says on my passport and that's what I am officially. I check Scottish on the census. You're English. You feel something else.