[Dirac Delta Function]

(Original post by Indo-Chinese Food)
Who are you talking about, islam or britain?

Britain.

[Yoko Ono]

Because doing so would be illiberal. If she's in a place where it's not necessary to reveal your identity then I do not care.

[Risserd]

(Original post by hannah60000)
Possibly because Britain is known as a VERY Tolerant society, (although that is slightly changing in hard times), thus we wish not to offend and what everyone to have that freedom of expression in this case religion. That what I would say.

britain isnt tolerant. well to muslim extremists,maybe, hence its called Londonistan.

[Charlottie93]

(Original post by Howard)
If Darwin was right I suppose at some point we'd all be related to a fish.

If theists are right we were made by a man in the sky and are all related to each other anyway.

I'll be honest I have no idea where you were going with my post when you reached the conclusion of Evolution and our species development from a fish... from a point that we are all descendants of immigrants. Because to be honest I can't see any other reason we'd all end up on this island and even if your ancestors were on the island before it was an island then they still came from somewhere else.

[callum9999]

(Original post by Risserd)
britain isnt tolerant. well to muslim extremists,maybe, hence its called Londonistan.

Except it isn't called Londonistan.... And dozens of countries also have their own hilarious Muslim-sounding names for their own cities regardless of whether they are generally tolerant or not.

I've always found it amusing that China Town, Little Italy etc. in cities was always seen as a great thing - but if it's a muslim/Pakistani/Afghan etc. area then it's unacceptable segregation and they should be dispersed and forced to integrate.

[lilyrawstorne]

I think it's easier NOT to ban the burka, I mean come on people should be able to wear what they want (within absolute extremes I guess).

However I wish women would freely decide not to wear them. They're gross uniforms of oppression to me.


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[hannah60000]

(Original post by Risserd)
britain isnt tolerant. well to muslim extremists,maybe, hence its called Londonistan.

I live in London so I mainly refer to it which is very multi-cultural. But in general the view of Britain in the world's eyes especially Europe from a foreign prospective with respect to other countries is it is tolerant as I said that is changing the tolerance is fading as we have become over tolerant.

[hannah60000]

(Original post by lilyrawstorne)
I think it's easier NOT to ban the burka, I mean come on people should be able to wear what they want (within absolute extremes I guess).

However I wish women would freely decide not to wear them. They're gross uniforms of oppression to me.


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Some do, but you have a point as other do not wish to but are pressured into sue to customs which is kind of sad and if they refuse they are punished and out-casted (obvious not in all cases).

[Bonged.]

(Original post by callum9999)
Except it isn't called Londonistan.... And dozens of countries also have their own hilarious Muslim-sounding names for their own cities regardless of whether they are generally tolerant or not.

I've always found it amusing that China Town, Little Italy etc. in cities was always seen as a great thing - but if it's a muslim/Pakistani/Afghan etc. area then it's unacceptable segregation and they should be dispersed and forced to integrate.

For this analogy to work, I presume there is ample evidence of sectarian tension (sectarian child rape gangs etc) between Chinese and British people.

So, no, it's not amusing it's actually pretty self evident why hard working, prosperous and cultured groups with lower crime rates than the indigenous population are welcomed over groups with .... less impressive statistics.

On topic - the Burkha shouldn't be banned, people should be allowed to wear what they like. Equally, other citizens should be allowed to express their (non violent) disapproval without fear of reprisals.

[Llamageddon]

Because in the UK we don't like our elected officials creating laws that ban us from wearing items of clothing.

[Indo-Chinese Food]

(Original post by hannah60000)
Some do, but you have a point as other do not wish to but are pressured into sue to customs which is kind of sad and if they refuse they are punished and out-casted (obvious not in all cases).

I think that is the point isnt it - if the burkha was banned it , no overbearing husband would have the abiltiy to co-erce his wife into wearing a black sack to go outdoors. Or at least thats the theory.
personally im not bothered either way about the burkha. muslim women are faced with far greater islamic co-ercisons, ie the threat of death if they are seen to be dating or even mixing with non muslim males for example, and the whole honour killing issue.
burkhas are only a very insignificant tip of the iceberg

[Venomilys]

it's fun running around in a full veil pretending you're Altair, that's why!

[Marco1]

(Original post by YaYazooGirl)
It's not even called a 'burqa', it's called an 'abaya' so if you're trying to state a point at least call it it's proper name.

I believe it is actually called several different names depending on country.

[Marco1]

(Original post by lilyrawstorne)
I think it's easier NOT to ban the burka, I mean come on people should be able to wear what they want (within absolute extremes I guess).

However I wish women would freely decide not to wear them. They're gross uniforms of oppression to me.

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I believe too that they are uniforms of oppression. I would add though that they are a draconian remnant of a warped immorality. I say immorality rather than morality because I don't believe Islam has a natural morality other than a list of dictats and narratives, some quite hostile towards people of other religions i.e. Christians and Jews.

[Howard]

(Original post by Charlottie93)
If theists are right we were made by a man in the sky and are all related to each other anyway.

I'll be honest I have no idea where you were going with my post when you reached the conclusion of Evolution and our species development from a fish... from a point that we are all descendants of immigrants. Because to be honest I can't see any other reason we'd all end up on this island and even if your ancestors were on the island before it was an island then they still came from somewhere else.

Well, that was really my point. That we all come out of the sea if you want to go back far enough.

[sarahthegemini]

Hmm, banning non-muslims from wearing certain items - i.e. banning hoodies in certain places, is perfectly acceptable.
Banning muslims from wearing clothing that covers them almost completely - ooh gosh no, that's against their human rights! Can't possibly do that

[Reformed2010]

(Original post by Lord-Voldemort)
But that's the thing - it's not a free country and the government does dictate what people can and can't wear.

Hardly, as long as you're not running around naked and thus committing public disorder. Can you give me an example of a law in Britain that bans certain clothing in public?

[Dmon1Unlimited]

(Original post by Risserd)
no, it symbolises the status of women in islam: as 10th class citizens. and every country calling itself civilised should ban them.

You are not refering to the entire female population. Some may represent what you claim (which I say does exist in my opinion), but others don't. You will need to provide a link to say the majority are as you say, because i find it doubtful.

Banning the burka is like stopping a person from having a runny nose and claiming you cured their flu. This is wrong, the symptom may be gone but the flu is still there. You solved one symptom but not resolved the problem, the flu, which is 'attitude towards women'

[madders94]

I think we can find a happy medium with banning the burka only in situations where it would commonly be considered polite to remove a motorcycle helmet or a face mask, or where having your face covered presents a potential security risk e.g in a bank. If someone in a full-face veil came over to talk to me and didn't uncover their face, I'd ignore them and walk away, because I would find that incredibly rude.

[Lord-Voldemort]

(Original post by Reformed2010)
Hardly, as long as you're not running around naked and thus committing public disorder. Can you give me an example of a law in Britain that bans certain clothing in public?

See s.5 of the Public Order Act 1986 and other such legislation.

Walk around a town centre with a t-shirt slagging of gay people or ethnicities and you will likely be arrested under s.5 et al.

Walk around a town centre in a Nazi uniform without any excuse for using it for a historical re-enactment and see if you get away with it.

Walk around a town centre in a penis or vagina costume and see if you get away with it.

Walk around a town centre in a balaclava and military-style garb and see if you aren't arrested for intimidating the locals.

etc, etc, etc.

And the very fact that, as you admit, one cannot walk around in public naked shows that the state places restrictions on how we can dress in public.