Girls friendzone men more on looks than personality.......?

I'm sorry, but you have to be willing to realize you're the exception here. Women are less visual than men. it doesn't make women at disadvantage, being visual is not 'ability' which is important to have - it just means judging on looks rather than confidence, ambition etc. And most women find the latter more important. I'm from the most liberal city in terms of feminism, I do what the hell I want, but like MOST women I'd rather go on a date with a guy I like than ogle random men in a strip club.
I GET that it's not you. But you're an exception which confirms the rule.

erm if you had the choice would you rather sleep with someone really hot or just slightly hot. (hypothetically speaking so ignoring whether you would ever have a one-night stand or whatever)

I would rather sleep with someone I have a great sexual chemistry with, which largely depends on his charisma, body language, personality etc. Physical attractiveness is an asset, but a confident, charismatic and funny 8 beats a boring 10 any day. In fact I would go as far as to say that an obnoxious or boring physically perfect man is not a 10 at all, because that scale works completely different for men.

ok most women i've spoken to said that they would pick the better looking one. Ohh most better looking guys usually have more charisma than normal guys because of their confidence.


-also biologically speaking what i'm saying is more true, no-one wants unhealthy babies.

-also not all good-looking guys have horrible personalities.

When girls are actually watching male strippers, they really like it. I can remember very vividly (*shudders) a naked guy in a club dancing and I asked the girls around me whether they were enjoying it and they all sounded like guys with their responses, infact they seemed more into than the guy watching girls (who usually seemed border lined depressed).

However I do not think in a more general enviroment girls would be so comfortable with the notion of going and seeing a male stripper or enjoying it. Like when girls plan their night out, I don't think seeing stripper is at the top of their agenda or is even discussed (the other girls might frown on it if the topic was raised). Whilst with guys planning out their nights out, seeing a stripper is definitely something to be discussed (indeed, not being confortable with seeing a stripper would be condemed and the guy would lose their "lad" status".

I am just speculating here, as I do not actually know what girls do when they plan their nights out.

My point is that girls in an aroused state are very similar to guys. Whilst in a cold state, they are much much more conservative and much much less open than guys because they have been socialised to behave like that (and for what were very good reasons in the past, no society has ever developed (that I can think of) without women being told to value their virginity and marriage being the cornerstone their lives)

Biologically speaking women are also attracted to loyal and wealthy men who can provide, and confident men who'll stand up for them. More than beauty. Never said good-looking guys have horrible personalities. it's about what you emphasize. If you don't understand that, you don't understand the discussion, what the hell are you on about? i don't think that you understand the discussion. . sorry

What? I've had a fair number of **** buddies that I had zero emotional chemistry with. The only premise for that is a) They're hot. b) They're unlikely to become clingy.

I can do it plenty.

Have a medal you wierdo.

You're writing essays about how different people experience arousal differently, and why we should accept them for it. Then you go ahead and insult me for exactly that.

Something seems off.

In all seriousness, you do seem a little wierd

Okay, let me present the argument a little differently. Lets use rape as an example.

When most people think of rape, they think a vulnerable attractive woman on her own, who a man just sees (notice the emphasis of visual) and decides to over power her and **** her.

Is this how rape really works? NOOOO.

What really happens is that a guy and girl get together. They end up going somewhere suitable for sex. The guy and the girl end up touching, kissing etc (notice the physical part). The guy at this point is very aroused. However it turns out the the girl really is not, she is not comfortable with the idea of sex. However the man has been so aroused by this stage he cannot control himself and he over powers the girl who trys to resist. (an interesting conclusion from this examamination of rape, is that guys who can arouse girls are not going to be rapists, because they will get the girls consent).

Notice how in the second case, the man has been aroused through things like touching and the like. Just seeing a ****ing smoking girl is not enough to get a man to rape a woman.

Another interesting conclusion that can be drawn out from this is that perhaps part of the reason women tend to be raped, is because it is harder to arouse a woman comapred to a man (and the obvious fact that men tend to be stronger is probably important, but perhaps less so than people think).

Another interesting conclusion that can be drawn from this analysis of rape is that it explains quite nicely how guys who seem like really nice down to earth people can turn out to be rapists. And it does raise the rather alarming issue, of to what extent we all have the capacity to rape.

This discussion is getting really wierd now, but the only way you understand these things is thinking about some fairly wierd ****. And if you want any more evidence how about this video.

Being called "weird" by someone who writes **** like this;

I expect another apology PM from you later tonight.

I did not say I am not wierd. Infact, I know I am. I like to fight and I wear make up for godsake. Ofcourse I am weird.

Don't. I was way out of line before.

And frankly not responding to my apology was kinda rude.

If a woman said what?

What? I've had a fair number of **** buddies that I had zero emotional chemistry with. The only premise for that is a) They're hot. b) They're unlikely to become clingy.

I can do it plenty.

Go white knight somewhere else. Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.

women are just as visual as guys, but due to them being oppressed for a long time it will take a couple a centuries for it to be socially acceptable for them to be visual.

-women having casual sex is frowned upon and if she used a prostitute most guys probably won't date her. i mastered the ten-point scale.

I would date a prostitute.....If she looked good and had an awesome personality. Stop making idiotic generalizations.

don't shoot the messenger.

what the hell are you on about? most men in real life told me they wouldn't. hell, most guys have told me that they wouldn't date someone who has had more sexual partners than them. you're the one who is being ridiculous.