Why do people hate short guys?
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Re: Why do people hate short guys?Having a girl able to almost look you straight in the eye is pretty hot. As is 40 inch ****ing legs...and standing out in a crowd...and looking like two models...(Original post by SillyMilly)
I am a girl with the opposite problem im 5ft 11! and sometimes i swear men over 5ft9 do not exist haha! but I would never discard a man because of his height I would without question consider dating a shorter man granted i would have to say shortest i would go is 5ft8 otherwise id look like a tit and Id look like the man.!. For me I wouldnt want to be hughely bigger than the guy because I would feel a bit lke i said the bloke! however I would certainly have no issues dating someboy 2/3 inches shorter.
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Re: Why do people hate short guys?
I wouldn't say short guys are hated, but we do seem to get a lack of respect from some people. There's a thread in the Chat section called "What's more intimidating: Height or Muscle?" and on there is plenty of comments (mostly from males it has to be said) saying things such as 'short guys with muscles look hilarious' and 'they're obviously compensating'. I am aware this is the internet where people aren't typically nice, and it's not something I'd had a problem with in everyday life (apart from a small amount of bullying when I was younger) but it does make you wonder.
There's actually been quite a few studies about how society views shorter men and it's actually quite worrying. Most of them were carried out in the US but are probably still relevant. For example, males over 6ft account for roughly 10% of the population but represent about 60% of boardroom jobs. There is also substantial correlation between one's height and their salary.
Another example was where people were presented with males of various heights, and asked to guess their profession and salary. The taller men were typically assumed to have highly-skilled, high-paying jobs. Whereas shorter men were often associated with unglamorous and low-paid careers.
I try not to scare myself with things like this and keep in mind that there are always many exceptions. But sometimes you can't help yourself but think about these things. -
Re: Why do people hate short guys?
I don't hate short men, just that I prefer a man who is on the same sorta height - I'm 5ft 9, and I often like to wear heels, which of course makes me 5ft 11/6ft. Worse thing in my opinion is over-towering the fella, and looking like a very odd couple. Ok that probably sounds shallow, but short men are just a no no for me personally.
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Re: Why do people hate short guys?
Hi Ct2k7, I don't want to sound arrogant but I will be the best help you will get in this thread. I am 19, a uni student, around 5'3ish and yes, male. But from what you said is only a problem when you believe it. I used to believe it, but in fact I've worked out confidence is considered more attractive than height. I know this may sound odd, but obviously I am conscious of my height too, so I've started wearing shoes that adds an inch or so on. It's not much, but it helps a bit!
However, I've finished my first year of uni and although I'm not the most successful guy with girls I managed to go on a few dates with one girl and got off with a girl in a club too. I feel awkward writing that, but it's just to prove that not all girls hate short guys. In fact, the girl in the club was taller than me. Your height does not mean you cannot be like any other guy. What you want to do is your choice. Admittedly, it may be harder. But there are many girls 5ft-5'4 who would be around your height. Just be confident and you'll be fine!
As for how society views people. Personally, I've never experienced being viewed differently other than some jokes within mates. But you shouldn't believe studies, I always believe people make themselves who they are. If you want, you can be successful and an exception to the rule. Nobody is perfect, remember that.Last edited by JJJ3; 01-07-2012 at 17:09. -
Re: Why do people hate short guys?
You can't keep on about your height. You're wasting time. What do you want to do with your life? Go and do it.
People react to a man or woman who is interesting, generous, pleasant to be with.
After a while the most beautiful 6'+ guy is just a guy ; his looks and height are only superficial and won't help in the long run if he hasn't got more important aspects to him. There's only so many hours you can spend admiring a pretty face before you get bored.
The best 'cure' for this sort of worry is going out there to find someone to help. -
Re: Why do people hate short guys?Thats ridiculous I don't hate short guys. How can you hate someone for their height? I mean, I find it pretty lame when men have 'short man syndrome' and are overly aggressive for no reason, no need(Original post by ct2k7)
For a girl, it's acceptable for her to be short.
For a guy it's not. It's already bad not being in demand, and thus, unattractive to most girls out there, physically, but some women/girls go as far as to validate their comments with absurd points, such as:
- Short men not being "REAL men";
- All short men having a 'Napoleon' complex;
- Bad genetics;
- Taller men are better protectors;
- Small mean being incapable.
It's bad enough that way, but I've honestly had many taller men trying to start a fight with me - I don't want to fight.
It's not as if taller men were better protectors and/or hunters in the Neanderthal and previous era: men were stocky and shorter due to adaptations to the local environment, and being tall certainly wasn't an advantage as such in hunting or protecting.
I am a very short young man, so my dating options are VERY limited.
Some people telling me to find someone shorter than me - yeah, I don't see many women or girls short than me at all. I get that everyone has their preferences, but don't tell me that I'm less capable than someone else due to something that I can't control. In fact, these preferences are actually requirements. I'm as good as a protector than someone who's very tall. Women seem to absolutely hate short men, or even the idea of men. One woman even said that all short men should be rounded up and shot. Women hate being seen as attractive to short men, it's a complete "turn off". Don't even think that being confident that significantly impact things either - it really doesn't at my stage, at least. Saying that "the right person will come along eventually" doesn't even help either; most, and the majority will discriminate and filter out based on initial impressions (physical).
There's also a double standard when it comes to behaviour. A shorter man is seen as having a complex if he pursues or chases something (not necessarily aggressively), but for a taller person, it is seen as acceptable or even desirable. Why is this? I don't understand why I need to "make up" for my height. Does being taller make me any better? I wouldn't think so.
One girl even said this "Short guys should serve a year in pen for every inch they are under 5'9.". Gee, that's pretty much half of the male population in North. America.
I really don't understand this. It's acceptable to discriminate on the basis of height, but not on something, let's just say, weight. -
Re: Why do people hate short guys?Can't help you much with clubs as clubbing is all about height and physical attractiveness. In usual interactions with girls, it's all about confidence though. Pretty much every girl, whether she admits it or not, is attracted to confident guys. I used to go out with a girl 2 inches taller than me (I'm 5ft6 so not exactly a giant myself). Wearing tall shoes helps as well - I'm not suggesting those silly looking Sarkozy "lifts", but I have smartish shoes with chunky soles which make me an inch taller. If you take girls 2 inches taller than you to be the upper limit, that lets you go up to 5ft 5 - a much wider pool of girls than the 5ft 2 and below you probably imagine.(Original post by ct2k7)
For a girl, it's acceptable for her to be short.
For a guy it's not. It's already bad not being in demand, and thus, unattractive to most girls out there, physically, but some women/girls go as far as to validate their comments with absurd points, such as:
- Short men not being "REAL men";
- All short men having a 'Napoleon' complex;
- Bad genetics;
- Taller men are better protectors;
- Small mean being incapable.
It's bad enough that way, but I've honestly had many taller men trying to start a fight with me - I don't want to fight.
It's not as if taller men were better protectors and/or hunters in the Neanderthal and previous era: men were stocky and shorter due to adaptations to the local environment, and being tall certainly wasn't an advantage as such in hunting or protecting.
I am a very short young man, so my dating options are VERY limited.
Some people telling me to find someone shorter than me - yeah, I don't see many women or girls short than me at all. I get that everyone has their preferences, but don't tell me that I'm less capable than someone else due to something that I can't control. In fact, these preferences are actually requirements. I'm as good as a protector than someone who's very tall. Women seem to absolutely hate short men, or even the idea of men. One woman even said that all short men should be rounded up and shot. Women hate being seen as attractive to short men, it's a complete "turn off". Don't even think that being confident that significantly impact things either - it really doesn't at my stage, at least. Saying that "the right person will come along eventually" doesn't even help either; most, and the majority will discriminate and filter out based on initial impressions (physical).
There's also a double standard when it comes to behaviour. A shorter man is seen as having a complex if he pursues or chases something (not necessarily aggressively), but for a taller person, it is seen as acceptable or even desirable. Why is this? I don't understand why I need to "make up" for my height. Does being taller make me any better? I wouldn't think so.
One girl even said this "Short guys should serve a year in pen for every inch they are under 5'9.". Gee, that's pretty much half of the male population in North. America.
I really don't understand this. It's acceptable to discriminate on the basis of height, but not on something, let's just say, weight. -
Re: Why do people hate short guys?I try to ignore the studies, but I'm someone who sort of likes to look at these things.(Original post by RedDevilThing)
I wouldn't say short guys are hated, but we do seem to get a lack of respect from some people. There's a thread in the Chat section called "What's more intimidating: Height or Muscle?" and on there is plenty of comments (mostly from males it has to be said) saying things such as 'short guys with muscles look hilarious' and 'they're obviously compensating'. I am aware this is the internet where people aren't typically nice, and it's not something I'd had a problem with in everyday life (apart from a small amount of bullying when I was younger) but it does make you wonder.
There's actually been quite a few studies about how society views shorter men and it's actually quite worrying. Most of them were carried out in the US but are probably still relevant. For example, males over 6ft account for roughly 10% of the population but represent about 60% of boardroom jobs. There is also substantial correlation between one's height and their salary.
Another example was where people were presented with males of various heights, and asked to guess their profession and salary. The taller men were typically assumed to have highly-skilled, high-paying jobs. Whereas shorter men were often associated with unglamorous and low-paid careers.
I try not to scare myself with things like this and keep in mind that there are always many exceptions. But sometimes you can't help yourself but think about these things.
I recently had someone in my aircraft, (I'm a student pilot) who was 6'4" who decided he wanted to challenge my authority and say that I'd be a bad pilot because of my height and was constantly putting me down. The other guy with me was getting pissed off but admired my patience in not responding. However, the s*** hit the fan when he directly disobeyed my instruction, nearly killing all of us.
Fair enough. With regards to the bolded comment, however, why do you think so? My gf is taller than me, and we might look weird together. I only come up to her chest, but she doesn't mind it.(Original post by Anonymous)
I don't hate short men, just that I prefer a man who is on the same sorta height - I'm 5ft 9, and I often like to wear heels, which of course makes me 5ft 11/6ft. Worse thing in my opinion is over-towering the fella, and looking like a very odd couple. Ok that probably sounds shallow, but short men are just a no no for me personally.
Just to clarify, I don't have a problem with girls - in fact, most of them want a short term fling or something, even had married women flirting with me. I didn't think height was a problem until people started to mention it, and I've had a lot of people laugh at me because of it or accuse me of having a complex simply because of my ambition. I say screw them, however, there is a tolerance limit for me.(Original post by JJJ3)
Hi Ct2k7, I don't want to sound arrogant but I will be the best help you will get in this thread. I am 19, a uni student, around 5'3ish and yes, male. But from what you said is only a problem when you believe it. I used to believe it, but in fact I've worked out confidence is considered more attractive than height. I know this may sound odd, but obviously I am conscious of my height too, so I've started wearing shoes that adds an inch or so on. It's not much, but it helps a bit!
However, I've finished my first year of uni and although I'm not the most successful guy with girls I managed to go on a few dates with one girl and got off with a girl in a club too. I feel awkward writing that, but it's just to prove that not all girls hate short guys. In fact, the girl in the club was taller than me. Your height does not mean you cannot be like any other guy. What you want to do is your choice. Admittedly, it may be harder. But there are many girls 5ft-5'4 who would be around your height. Just be confident and you'll be fine!
As for how society views people. Personally, I've never experienced being viewed differently other than some jokes within mates. But you shouldn't believe studies, I always believe people make themselves who they are. If you want, you can be successful and an exception to the rule. Nobody is perfect, remember that.
Whilst I can't keep going about it, I cannot ignore it, and it is something I just want to explore - the absurdity of some of the comments directed at me, penalising me for something I can't control, however is accepted by society. There is a blatant double standard.(Original post by Anonymous)
You can't keep on about your height. You're wasting time. What do you want to do with your life? Go and do it.
People react to a man or woman who is interesting, generous, pleasant to be with.
After a while the most beautiful 6'+ guy is just a guy ; his looks and height are only superficial and won't help in the long run if he hasn't got more important aspects to him. There's only so many hours you can spend admiring a pretty face before you get bored.
The best 'cure' for this sort of worry is going out there to find someone to help. -
Re: Why do people hate short guys?You're Asian too right? I feel so sorry for you as this country, white women don't go for you(Original post by ct2k7)
I am a very short young man, so my dating options are VERY limited.
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Re: Why do people hate short guys?From experience, short men don't have "short man syndrome" as much as taller men don't have "tall man syndrome". People attribute his aggressiveness due to his height because that's the easiest thing to see. Whilst a short man can be seen as having his aggressive complex, a taller man can be applauded for behaving in the exact same way. I can't really fault shorter men who feel like they have to prove something either - they're told and feel like they are deficient and that they have to make up for it. Some of them are told that they aren't real men, hence they feel the need to do it. It's logical on their side.(Original post by hiding12)
Thats ridiculous I don't hate short guys. How can you hate someone for their height? I mean, I find it pretty lame when men have 'short man syndrome' and are overly aggressive for no reason, no need
5'6" isn't that short... you're closer to the average than a lot of people.(Original post by Michaelj)
I'm 5ft 6 and I don't have problems with girls. Mind you I don't go for amazons either, but tall women don't mind me either.
I don't go to clubs - it's not my scene and I know of the superficiality and shallowness that happens there. I am told that I have great facial aesthetics - I always get girls flirting with me, however, more often than not, a lot of girls I had asked out, before my gf, turned me down because of my height. That said, I do know now that someone of them are damn right jealous and wished they hadn't turned me down after seeing how I progressed in the past year.(Original post by talon1579)
Can't help you much with clubs as clubbing is all about height and physical attractiveness. In usual interactions with girls, it's all about confidence though. Pretty much every girl, whether she admits it or not, is attracted to confident guys. I used to go out with a girl 2 inches taller than me (I'm 5ft6 so not exactly a giant myself). Wearing tall shoes helps as well - I'm not suggesting those silly looking Sarkozy "lifts", but I have smartish shoes with chunky soles which make me an inch taller. If you take girls 2 inches taller than you to be the upper limit, that lets you go up to 5ft 5 - a much wider pool of girls than the 5ft 2 and below you probably imagine.
I am comfortable with people of all height, for me, there is no upper limits. I have a friend who's 6'8" and when we walk around, we get a lot of stares lol. It's just that a lot of people just hate and don't view shorter men as people.
I know that this isn't the greatest place to look at trends, but you can't really ignore it, because the data is in realtime and allows freedom of expression.
https://twitter.com/#!/search/%22short%20guys%22
There just appears to be a lot of hate there at least, but I do notice it in life. -
Re: Why do people hate short guys?I am of descent that isn't white.(Original post by Anonymous)
You're Asian too right? I feel so sorry for you as this country, white women don't go for you
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Re: Why do people hate short guys?Is that a real thing?(Original post by ct2k7)
"Tall man syndrome".
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Re: Why do people hate short guys?That was not my question, is 'tall man syndrome' a real thing?(Original post by ct2k7)
An a-hole can be an a-hole, regardless of height.
I've had a lot of taller men act insecure around me :/ -
Re: Why do people hate short guys?short men don't have "short man syndrome" as much as taller men don't have "tall man syndrome"(Original post by Anonymous)
That was not my question, is 'tall man syndrome' a real thing?
That should answer your question.
If that doesn't, then the simple answer is that neither of the conditions exist. -
Re: Why do people hate short guys?
I have trouble with getting a g/f, but mainly because i drive a Volvo, i am generally boring and do things that have no interest to the opposite sex.
EG: Don't drink, smoke, drugs etc. I tend to be a tad self-opinionated but not intentionally.
I am 5ft 7inch. I don't feel that my height is my problem, just my general persona. -
Re: Why do people hate short guys?(Original post by ct2k7)
Fair enough. With regards to the bolded comment, however, why do you think so? My gf is taller than me, and we might look weird together. I only come up to her chest, but she doesn't mind it.
I don't know
it just doesn't appeal to me personally. I know men who are shorter than myself, and I get on with them fine, just that I wouldn't date someone shorter than myself - just how I have always been. But then again, I've only dated 2 blokes who are taller than myself, and those relationships didn't last long, maybe I should take a change?
lol
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Re: Why do people hate short guys?(Original post by SillyMilly)
I am a girl with the opposite problem im 5ft 11! and sometimes i swear men over 5ft9 do not exist haha! but I would never discard a man because of his height I would without question consider dating a shorter man granted i would have to say shortest i would go is 5ft8 otherwise id look like a tit and Id look like the man.!. For me I wouldnt want to be hughely bigger than the guy because I would feel a bit lke i said the bloke! however I would certainly have no issues dating someboy 2/3 inches shorter.
There will be girls who are 5ft3/4/5 wh would happily date you , people always make comments because they can because we live in a world where making somebody else feel crap makes people feel better aboyut themselves. I went out last night and I must of been told 10 times 'wow your tall' which is fine but I also ended up in an arguement with a girl who told me 'your ugly lanky and tall and every dress is tiny and short on you you look like a hooker' it upset me but then I worked on the positives and told her 'least ive got the legs to pull a dress off while she had stumpy little tree trunks.
People will always find something to be nasty about whether its your hair colour, your eyes, your body, your height, your voice we live in a shallow world, however you need to find the people who are not like you wo love you for who you are
Height is irrelevent .Thread: http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show...=#post38139783(Original post by SillyMilly)
I dont like little men .......no sexual tension
I realise that it wasn't the OP's intention when he made this thread...but all of these women trying to explain what they want should probably be ignored completely, lest we become as confused as they seem to be.
On a more relevant note OP - most people walk around with below par body language and don't make the most of their height with good posture. With regards to women - it's always seemed to me that they only look tall when they're wearing high heels (even if, technically - they are 5ft 9+) and this is probably because of the posture thing. Or perhaps it's that tall girls sometimes feel self-conscious about it and slouch a little.
With the height thing in general I never really notice. The only time I've ever found height to be an issue (if you can call it that) is in certain sports I've played (football, basketball) where height can be an advantage.
If it makes you feel any better OP - I reckon most men would say yes to a couple of extra inches.
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Re: Why do people hate short guys?Up to you - but at least you opinion didn't include something obnoxious as I've had thrown in my fact earlier this week(Original post by Anonymous)
I don't know
it just doesn't appeal to me personally. I know men who are shorter than myself, and I get on with them fine, just that I wouldn't date someone shorter than myself - just how I have always been. But then again, I've only dated 2 blokes who are taller than myself, and those relationships didn't last long, maybe I should take a change?
lol
Some people telling me to find someone shorter than me - yeah, I don't see many women or girls short than me at all. I get that everyone has their preferences, but don't tell me that I'm less capable than someone else due to something that I can't control. In fact, these preferences are actually requirements. I'm as good as a protector than someone who's very tall. Women seem to absolutely hate short men, or even the idea of men. One woman even said that all short men should be rounded up and shot. Women hate being seen as attractive to short men, it's a complete "turn off". Don't even think that being confident that significantly impact things either - it really doesn't at my stage, at least. Saying that "the right person will come along eventually" doesn't even help either; most, and the majority will discriminate and filter out based on initial impressions (physical).
lol