Does Britain need to change for Islam or vice versa?
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Re: Does Britain need to change for Islam or vice versa?
Neither NEEDS to change. However, if push comes to shove, then why should the society change? No religion has the right to affect other people's lives. Society is a privilege, not a right. That's not to say that someone should be discriminated against because of their beliefs, but there has to be compromise on both sides.
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Re: Does Britain need to change for Islam or vice versa?Wasn't gonna bother responding to such a foolish know all little boy, but couldn't resist. I'm not asking you to change your beliefs 'mate' (not mine but I hope you have at least one friend), just show the same understanding you would expect to be shown. As for letting me know about the majority of people against halal being Atheist I am curious as to the source of your serious amounts of knowledge. You can also keep your spelling lessons and save them for someone who gives a raas (as its only sad little boys who bother with correcting the spelling / grammer of others - as they are unable to express their grandiosity in an appropraite manner). So now you can go bother someone else you gooner scum. You are now free to moan about name calling.(Original post by Dubstep Prince)
*Believes. It is a shame that you resort to bitter name calling, and trying to insult my intelligence, when you fail to spell believe correctly.
So what do you expect me to do? Change my religious beliefs? You can stick that idea where the sun doesn't shine mate, because I'll have you know, majority of the people who are against eating halal food are atheist. Please do come back and tell me when you find the apparent rule in Atheism, which condemns halal food.
Thank you, and goodbye
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Re: Does Britain need to change for Islam or vice versa?you are citing extreme, provocative examples of cases which we haven't seen in britain. My point is that as british citizens, muslims who feel the need to challenge laws which prevent them from living their daily lives (i.e. hijab, halal-meat etc) can do so by following the democratic process and taking their challenge through the relevant paths. Forget about saudi, algeria etc, and cite examples that we can relate to in britain.(Original post by RachelSophia)
I don't really understand the point you're making here... I just explained that there isn't a challenge... and you ignored the fact that i said their religion sometimes breaks the law. Especially a law that is put in place to keep order and protect people.
Like i said i cant see what you're point is here so forgive me i can't reply with a counter-argument... Asking Britain to adapt laws in order to avoid 'challenge' amongst those who are religious is silly when there are lots of other countries which don't need to change anything.
Like the Christian algerian who had his head chopped off in the streets because he wouldn't deny his god. Their laws allowed that because their religion did, and is that what we want Britain to become? Because we're adapting laws to beliefs....
and hey cut the Muslims out of it and think back to Christians who were allowed to, by law, burn women and throw them off cliffs if they were 'pagan' or 'witches'. This is a prime example of why laws/culture/society shouldn't be changed for religion -
Re: Does Britain need to change for Islam or vice versa?(Original post by Fg=GM1M2/r^2)
As a mulim I disagree with having to adapt my beliefs in ANY way. I will only follow the laws and rules set out by my Lord and the ones brought to mankind by my beloved prophet Muhammed (may the peace and blessings of my Lord forever be upon him and may he intercede for his followers on that day of intercession. Amen). Rather i think Britain needs a few changes for us muslims. We do have a freedom of expression and belief, to say that Islam must make compromises is defying our rights to this freedom. If the western world can make a mockery of Islam in the name of freedom of expression, then we sure as hell can have our freedom of belief and expression in whichever legal way we wish.
I also take offence from your first sentence. I am proud to call myself a muslim, as is any other true muslim. This is because the true islam that i experience, every day, and fell in love with is the most beautiful, peaceful and tolerent religion i have looked into.
Just offerening my view on the issue.
May My Lord guide all his people to his true path and protect his people in these dark and difficult times... Amen!
Regards
I agree with you.